Post match v Reading

[Red_Al_77]

Well I'm over it now. Reading Jocko's comments has cheered me up no end. Roll on Tuesday, and good luck Ricky Hatton.

[ARIMAN]

Will your conversation with Hicks & Gillete be more difficult?

Not if I improve my English.

Hehe

Classic Rafa
Everyone loses one day - today was our day.
Big games this week - Marseille and Utd - if we want to post-mortem - maybe after them
If you offered one defeat and two victories I would have taken it

[Slim]

Besiktas, Fulham and Bolton, big time eh?

When we finish 15 points behind the title winners again, you can use that as an excuse for why Benitez, a man out of his depth, should stay in the job.

I get the feeling you've been waiting since August for our first defeat so you could type that.

[bigfooty]

Thats true. Man united should be beating teams like Bolton but **** happens. No team, no matter how much you might think it, can win every game.

Perhaps, but Man Utd had a poor first home game and have won 8 straight since. Had we not fkd about "resting" Torres against Birmingham or doing some other strange things then losses like this would be slightly easier to take. But when you drop points like that these losses become even more painful.

[kurtangle01]

Sorry, I thought we'd moved on from then.

4 seasons later and the same baffling team selections, rotation and average players are costing us points against **** sides.

If we'd played some good football and showed a bit of fight, I might be able to accept the defeat, but the fact is we play some of the worst football in the league and rely on a stifling negative system and one or two players to win us games.

So what about Ferguson leaving out Ronaldo etc... and losing at Bolton? Do you stll think they have a chance of winning the league? I do!

And if we beat them next week we're level on points with them. Not bad for being so ****e, eh?

[AFII]

Yet another naive AF post.............we also won games this season because of dodgy ref decisions. The reason we lost today was team selection and tactics!!

They shouldn't have had a pen. One goal down thanks to the ref.

We should have had two pens.

We lost today thanks to the ref, no one else.

The tactics would have worked fine with a better ref. When you are a goal down then you must gamble and move up more players in attacking positions. Harpers goal was because of that gamble from us.

That gamble would never have happened with a better ref.

So, we lost because of the ref, not because of any tactics.

With a normal ref we would probably have scored three and let in ?.

[Jocko]

If we finish 15 points behind then we will have done better than last season. Its all about improvement. We dont have a devine right to win the league

Oh dear.

[Slim]

If we finish 15 points behind then we will have done better than last season. Its all about improvement. We dont have a devine right to win the league and until people stop harping on about how long its been then the pressure is going to be worse on the players and the more likely we are to fail. But hey, keep moaning you seem to enjoy it.

Well said. We've still got a great chance of winning the league this season and if we don't at least we have shown improvement. How far behind were we this time last season? How many games had we lost? We're getting better and now suddenly one defeat and the doom merchants have us marked out as a bag of ****e again.

[Jocko]

We lost today thanks to the ref, no one else.

Classic.

[rage]

and utd should be beating teams like bolton, yet they might win the league...

yes they might win the league. Ferguscum sees the league as his bread and butter rafa just doesn't.

i know we're all gutted but ffs why play momo?
why play crouch left wing?
why play voronin right wing?
why take off torres and gerrard when **** like voronin and sissoko should come off?

Rafa's priority is the champions league.

**** it but i can't wait for january transfer, don't care if we buy anyone i just want **** like sissoko, voronin, riise and even kuyt out!

[Jocko]

Well said. We've still got a great chance of winning the league this season

No chance. The other sides are way ahead of us.

[Joe King]

Torres is injured according to 5 Live

[Red_Al_77]

We lost today. We are all gutted. It all went wrong for whatever reason, but we'll stuff the frogs and the Mancs and all will be well in the World.

[UpTheMiddle]

I'm sorry but it has to be said that Rafa has shown his true colours today. What every fan wants is to win the Premier League, not Rafa. Rafa sacrifices 3 points in the league for the chance to progress in the Champions League.

Taking Gerrard off with 20 mins left was a disgrace. Playing two defensive midfielders against a muck team like Reading was a disgrace. Playing no wingers was a disgrace.

Yes, we've been on a great run but there was no reason why we couldn't keep it going today. Just stick to what we've been doing. Why oh why does Rafa change it? And what's the point with taking Gerrard off after 70 mins? Will the extra 20 mins benefit him that much?

Rafa wants the CL, plain & simple. And he's willing to sacrifice the PL because of it.

We'll go 10 points behind Arsenal tomorrow if they win. A lot of ground to make up even at this stage.

[Icon]

All calm the hell down.
Read the YNWA words and look forward to midweek.

Chin up lads!