"Useless" - the scapegoat thread (Reading)

[dww]

I dont think Voronin is as bad as most people make out him to be. When he plays upfront with Torres he looks moderately threatening ( atleast more than Kuyt). He looks lost when he has to play on the wings though. He is a good fourth choice striker.

I'd agree he looks good when played deeper off a striker. He isn't suited to playing in a front three or on the wing and when played with Kuyt they both drop off the front too much. I think he is a good player and would certainly do well for a lower PL team.

As for Momo..I am being a bit harsh on him, but he shud not play unless 3 of our first choice midfielders are injured. Unless his passing improves to higher than Sunday league level, he should not play for Liverpool. In fact after watching Spearing's performance tonight, the lad deserves a place on the bench occasionally.

I like Momo and think a run of games is what he needs. He seems to lack confidence at the minute but at times I think his passing is quite good, but inconsistently so. I think we have to sell him as although he offers us a unique, and potentially valuable, option it appears we cannot offer him the opportunities to rediscover his form and he is not the type of player who is suited to being in and out of the team.

[Nic83]

What you have seen of Hobbs so far ?? regularly go to reserve games do you :whatever:

Where did i mention I've seen loads of him you fool? I said 'from what I've seen of him so far' which basically implies that I havn't seen much, which is why I went on to say he's only young and I hope he can improve on his performances thus far (that I've seen!)

[Johnny]

Pig**** isn`t actually that thick,hence why it`s used as slurry.

[Nic83]

Crouch needs a winger that can put the ball in we didnt have one today and havent had for a long time this is we IMO Morientes failed in the Prem we didnt have any wingers at all to whip the ball in

Nah he failed because he is a bottler.

[Nic83]

From a footballer, Crouch was poor but Momo played OK.

We're all footballers mate, just not very good ones!

[Nic83]

Voronin didnt touch the ball until the 23rd minute
Sissoko, Voronin & Riise constantly gave away possession, I actually thought they were Readings most effective players

Voronin dwells on the ball too long
Sissoko just cant pass
Riise just wellies the ball anywhere

As for Hobbs I have one criticism hes poor in the air, he didnt win one challenge in the air with their forwards

was this when he recieved it and passed to the opposition?

[Nic83]

a 4 by 4 then so

[thesilverfoxlfc]

I think they could be sold and probably should be along with hoepfully Kuyt,JP,Riise..........

....and bring in some real quality

[geoxf]

You are so wrong about Crouch, after Torres he is the must start striker, he causes problems for defenders and is a genuine goal threat, none of the other strikers we have do this. OK he can't head a ball but his performance on saturday was more down to tactics than the player himself. Sissoko is ****e and we should have sold him in the summer, of that there is no doubt.
Away to Newcastle we played the same system and battered a poor side, the main difference for me in that game was Kewel and to a lesser extent Kuyt, he is actually not to bad playing on the right of a 3. Rafa got it wrong on this occasion.

So...... you agree with me that Crouch 'can't head the ball'!....and you agree that Sissoko is rubbish.....you're almost there with my assessment that they both simply aren't good enough!

Agree with your Harry Kewell comment.....I think a lot depends on him tonight! C'MON YOU REDS!

[Joe Le Toff]

IMO there is absolutely no excuse for the shocking standard of passing ability that Momo shows each time he plays, i think it does Championship standard a disservice to compare that aspect of Momo's game to it.
Voronin has proved what we all knew before he signed, he is squad filler at very best, his role when he plays up front should be taken by Yossi IMO as the in-the hole forward player, id love to see him and Torres together.

[Steve101]

Still, he is a Liverpool player and he is a part of the best midfield in the world, so until he gives me a strong reason not to support him (like Diouf ), I say go Momo as I will do with every other member of our squad!
About right i think. wonderful how people give every player our famous support, no matter if theyre going through a dip in thier form, or still developing as players. Frankly, it doeasnt really matter what level a player is percieved to be at, its a team game, and aplayers role within the team ,and his ability to do his job, is the only thing that mattrs.

[Gazzla]

Both players would be decent squad players for most Premiership teams and would have been good players for us in years gone by but we have that much quality in our squad now that we expect more. Momo was a great buy from Valencia but hasn't improved as he is trying to adapt his game and he clearly isn't good enough to do so. Played as a midfield destroyer he is dynamite. Voronin again is a good enough squad player but nothing more

[Marky]

Bit harsh on Veronin, he's only been here 5 minutes and he's done alright if you ask me.
Momo however is in stinking form and judging my these comments he keeps coming out with he's not a happy chappy at the minute.