Transfer Dealings during the Rafalution

[Nicey]

Is it just me or has our purchases gone astronomically through the roof in terms of quality and more importantly return in investment.

Purchases like Pepe, Agger, Alonso, Mascherano, Sissosko, Garcia, Benny, El Ninio, Crouch, Aurellio, Hobbs, Lucas, Insua, Babble, Kuyt


All of the above we will make good money on, out of all of them even the players with "potential" have made an immediate impact. I remember when we bought very very high and sold low thank god that trend is changing under Rafa.

Generally these days I always feel we get the best of it in our transfer dealings. Now if this is down to Rafa I would say for the love of God keep his influence in the transfer dealings.

Does anybody know just how much Rafa has been involved in the transfer negotiations or has Parry just suddenly found his bollox when it comes to negotiations

[AFII]

Is it just me or has our purchases gone astronomically through the roof in terms of quality and more importantly return in investment.

Purchases like Pepe, Agger, Alonso, Mascherano, Sissosko, Garcia, Benny, El Ninio, Crouch, Aurellio, Hobbs, Lucas, Insua, Babble, Kuyt


All of the above we will make good money on, out of all of them even the players with "potential" have made an immediate impact. I remember when we bought very very high and sold low thank god that trend is changing under Rafa.

Generally these days I always feel we get the best of it in our transfer dealings. Now if this is down to Rafa I would say for the love of God keep his influence in the transfer dealings.

Does anybody know just how much Rafa has been involved in the transfer negotiations or has Parry just suddenly found his bollox when it comes to negotiations

Well, if you read that he want to be involved in the transfer deals then he has probably been that so far and want to continue to be that.

It's not Parry that we need to thank for our transfer success, it's Rafa.

[Mr Tourette]

Is it just me or has our purchases gone astronomically through the roof in terms of quality and more importantly return in investment.

Purchases like Pepe, Agger, Alonso, Mascherano, Sissosko, Garcia, Benny, El Ninio, Crouch, Aurellio, Hobbs, Lucas, Insua, Babble, Kuyt


All of the above we will make good money on, out of all of them even the players with "potential" have made an immediate impact. I remember when we bought very very high and sold low thank god that trend is changing under Rafa.

Generally these days I always feel we get the best of it in our transfer dealings. Now if this is down to Rafa I would say for the love of God keep his influence in the transfer dealings.

Does anybody know just how much Rafa has been involved in the transfer negotiations or has Parry just suddenly found his bollox when it comes to negotiations

its been pretty classy since rafa took charge. Early on he was forced to make a few more gambles with lower transfer funds, but the beauty is he generally got it spot on but most brilliantly when he was wrong - the player got shipped out...rapidly. it was such a refreshing change after houllier. How the **** did people defend him for so long! i stopped going on message boards because of it....

"cheyrou will come good and diao is a real tiger in the midfield. give them time..." :whatever:

[fowlen]

Rafa has made some really good purchases, but let's not forget that he has also made some pretty piss poor ones.

I would however have to say that he has rarely blown huge amounts on rubbish and the transfers that have not worked out have generally ended up at about break even after the player was sold.

Key transfers have however proved incredibly successful thus far.

I guess you could say poor transfers include:
Barragan, Nunez, Morientes, Bellamy, Paletta, Gonzales and a few others (but all in all we basically got what we paid for each of them).
He has also done well in getting rid of under achievers and deadwood and getting good prices (Baros, Pongolle, Diao, Traore to name a few).

Then there have been successes, such as Carson (looks like we'll make a 100% profit), Crouch, Xabi, Luis Garcia, Torres (still early days but signs are good), Mascherano etc etc.

There are also loads of promising youngsters.

The two biggish signings that i have a problem with are pennant and sissoko.

That's all

[AFII]

Rafa has made some really good purchases, but let's not forget that he has also made some pretty piss poor ones.

I would however have to say that he has rarely blown huge amounts on rubbish and the transfers that have not worked out have generally ended up at about break even after the player was sold.

Key transfers have however proved incredibly successful thus far.

I guess you could say poor transfers include:
Barragan, Nunez, Morientes, Bellamy, Paletta, Gonzales and a few others (but all in all we basically got what we paid for each of them).
He has also done well in getting rid of under achievers and deadwood and getting good prices (Baros, Pongolle, Diao, Traore to name a few).

Then there have been successes, such as Carson (looks like we'll make a 1000% profit), Crouch, Xabi, Luis Garcia, Torres (still early days but signs are good), Mascherano etc etc.

There are also loads of promising youngsters.

The two biggish signings that i have a problem with are pennant and sissoko.

That's all

[Nicey]

He has been immense thus far, ask any manager .. for every 5 hires you will get one or even possibly 2 bad apples .. its the way the cookie crumbles. All managers sign duffers ocassionaly .. but rather focus on wether this player was good or not what has impressed me is the Price we pay for players and the price we get for players on the way out, that and the sheer efficiency of the pruning of the squad. None of your chelsea style wage collectors.

I love the kind players Rafa signs ... Pepe, Xabi and Torres all stand out as men with broad shoulders not boys playing at been Premiership footballers if your get my drift. You can see it in Torres eyes, he is not ****ing around and only the best will do, a born winner who takes defeat badly .. and you need that quality to be truly great.

Slowly but surely the first 11 has filled up with truly outstanding players .. more and more we are becoming less a 1 or 2 man team. I'd say give Rafa another 2 years after this season and we will have probably one of the best 2 squads in the world.

[JohnDoe]

All of our transfer deals have been good except for Morientes, which was a consensus among Liverpool fans at the time of signing, and Josemi, whom we didn't lose a penny on.

Rafa has been the best manager in the transfer market in England since he came, and perhaps in all of Europe.

[Skillz]

Can not entertain the the thought that anyone could of done a better job than Rafa in turning over our squad. Especially when we had so many duds on ridiculously long contracts & wages that we have had ride out.

Makes me laugh when Rafa is criticised for his transfer record.

[AFII]

Can not entertain the the thought that anyone could of done a better job than Rafa in turning over our squad. Especially when we had so many duds on ridiculously long contracts & wages that we have had ride out.

Makes me laugh when Rafa is criticised for his transfer record.

Wenger have done some really laughable signings.

Jeffers £10m, Wiltord £11m, Cygan £5m, Wright £6m.

Every manager makes them. I would say that if you only look at Rafa's transfer record and how much his signings are worth now then he is at least as good as Wenger.

[JohnDoe]

Rafa is better than Wenger in the transfer market. He's never signed a dud he couldn't offload and he didn't have a decade to invest in youth.

[carheex]

All of our transfer deals have been good except for Morientes, which was a consensus among Liverpool fans at the time of signing, and Josemi, whom we didn't lose a penny on.

Rafa has been the best manager in the transfer market in England since he came, and perhaps in all of Europe.

I'd add the likes of bellamy, lopez, sissoko and kuyt to the not-so-great list of purchases, but overall Rafa has done superb. Especially when you consider:

barthez - 8m?
veron - 28m
hargreaves - 18m

I wonder what Rafa would do with that 54m?

On reflection, i'm as pleased with the departures as the arrivals.

[Rocket]

yes, but for wengers bad signing, he's made sooo many amazing ones

Henry
Anelka
Fabregas
Overmars

just to name a few he made a large profit on

[JohnDoe]

I'd add the likes of bellamy, lopez, sissoko and kuyt to the not-so-great list of purchases, but overall Rafa has done superb. Especially when you consider:

Sissoko was an excellent signing and did its job until we made two superb signings in Masch and Lucas. Wherever he goes we're getting no less than £10m for him because he's rated by the likes of Juventus and Inter.

Bellamy was a stop-gap signing at a time we didn't have enough money to buy two great strikers AND a top right winger. He did okay and we made a profit on him, he was certainly a better deal than Owen has been for Newcastle or Bent for Spurs.

Lopez? You mean Gonzales? Contrary to media reports, we bought him for £1.5m and sold him for about £4m. He wasn't good enough for the first team but he was a prospect with little risks after a good season in Spain.

Kuyt was excellent in first season and is still a very good player though he has his weaknesses. If we ever put him for sale, at least 50% of the teams in this league would jump on the chance to sign him and with the rising prices I don't expect any loss of money on him. He'll walk into most team's first choice line up except from the "big 4".

[Skillz]

Rafa is better than Wenger in the transfer market. He's never signed a dud he couldn't offload and he didn't have a decade to invest in youth.

Big call. What needs to be remembered though that a lot of Rafa's "failures" were stop gaps and were sold for little or no loss, often for profit. He has had to turn over a squad in very difficult circumstances (having high paid loser's on the payroll until this summer).

Most important of all though is the quality of his best signings ala Reina, Alonso, Torres etc. Not sure how many of those would of joined us but for Rafa. If we keep doing well in the CL we will continue to attract the biggest players.

[cled the red]

I'd add the likes of bellamy, lopez, sissoko and kuyt to the not-so-great list of purchases, but overall Rafa has done superb. Especially when you consider:

barthez - 8m?
veron - 28m
hargreaves - 18m

I wonder what Rafa would do with that 54m?

On reflection, i'm as pleased with the departures as the arrivals.

You forgot:

Kleberson
Djemba-Djemba (so good they named him twice!!!!)

Dunno how much those 2 cost, but all it proves that all managers make poor signings, but for some who are deemed untouchable by the press (Ferguson, Wenger) they are not highlighted and scrutinised in the same way.