Transfer Dealings during the Rafalution

[Rocket]

didn't we sell Bellamy for more than we bought him for

[red g]

Wengers successes have been spectacular, hence the media Love in.

I think Rafa's transfer policy has been fantastic and i expect in a couple of years for him to be lorded the same as wenger when Rafa's Youngsters come through

[dww]

Wengers successes have been spectacular, hence the media Love in.

I think Rafa's transfer policy has been fantastic and i expect in a couple of years for him to be lorded the same as wenger when Rafa's Youngsters come through

I really don't understand why people feel some odd need to compare the signings of Rafa and Wenger. They started from completely different positions and with different problems to solve and Wengers project at Arsenal is a lot more mature than Rafas with us.

You need time to do what Wenger has done with buying youth and getting a reputation for taking a chance on it.

Both managers have done a splendid job for their repective clubs in the transfer market and neither has been immune from the odd error in judgement but it has to be remembered that a lot of the time transfers are calculated risks.

[red g]

I really don't understand why people feel some odd need to compare the signings of Rafa and Wenger. They started from completely different positions and with different problems to solve and Wengers project at Arsenal is a lot more mature than Rafas with us.

You need time to do what Wenger has done with buying youth and getting a reputation for taking a chance on it.

Both managers have done a splendid job for their repective clubs in the transfer market and neither has been immune from the odd error in judgement but it has to be remembered that a lot of the time transfers are calculated risks.

Because Wenger is the benchmark for foreign managers in the premiership

[dww]

Because Wenger is the benchmark for foreign managers in the premiership

I don't see why one should distinguish between English and foreign managers to be honest. I also don't think you can really compare what managers do in different situations.

There is no way Rafa could have concentrated on future signings when he first came in the way Wenger has over recent years and so the comparison is not a particularly enlightening one IMO.

[red g]

I don't see why one should distinguish between English and foreign managers to be honest. I also don't think you can really compare what managers do in different situations.

There is no way Rafa could have concentrated on future signings when he first came in the way Wenger has over recent years and so the comparison is not a particularly enlightening one IMO.

While i would agree with your latter statement and wenger is several years ahead of rafa in time of the club, so I agree the comparisons are futile.

But in a way it is interesting to compare some foreign managers with english if only for the national bias.

[carheex]

Sissoko was an excellent signing and did its job until we made two superb signings in Masch and Lucas. Wherever he goes we're getting no less than £10m for him because he's rated by the likes of Juventus and Inter.

Bellamy was a stop-gap signing at a time we didn't have enough money to buy two great strikers AND a top right winger. He did okay and we made a profit on him, he was certainly a better deal than Owen has been for Newcastle or Bent for Spurs.

Lopez? You mean Gonzales? Contrary to media reports, we bought him for £1.5m and sold him for about £4m. He wasn't good enough for the first team but he was a prospect with little risks after a good season in Spain.

Kuyt was excellent in first season and is still a very good player though he has his weaknesses. If we ever put him for sale, at least 50% of the teams in this league would jump on the chance to sign him and with the rising prices I don't expect any loss of money on him. He'll walk into most team's first choice line up except from the "big 4".

If you think we'll get 10m for Sissoko you need psychiatric help. After an up-down first season he has been without doubt the poorest player I have ever seen in a red shirt. Truly embarassing. Especially when you consider that he's been moaning this week about a lack of 1st team action. I'd like to know who he thinks should be dropped to accomodate him!

And no, i did mean Lopez but thanks for reminding me about Gonzales aswell. Very poor. Oh, and Kromkamp. And Kuyt is surely a borderline failure.

I'm not having a dig at you OR Rafa for that matter but like everyone else he has made a number of poor signings. Maximum credit must go to him for acknowledging these mistakes and getting rid of them asap though.

[MindGuerrillas]

And no, i did mean Lopez but thanks for reminding me about Gonzales aswell. Very poor. Oh, and Kromkamp. And Kuyt is surely a borderline failure.

Lopez?

[carheex]

Yes!

[carheex]

"Obviously" I meant Nunez!

[The Erectile Banana]

"Obviously" I meant Nunez!

Ah, Nunez!

Nunez was rubbish, but I don't think anyone expected much. He was a makeweight in a deal where we were getting screwed by Real anyway. We weren't exactly in a strong bargaining position at the time. At least he filled a hole on the right flank for a season.

[lfc1394]

Ah, Nunez!

Nunez was rubbish, but I don't think anyone expected much. He was a makeweight in a deal where we were getting screwed by Real anyway. We weren't exactly in a strong bargaining position at the time. At least he filled a hole on the right flank for a season.

And we got £2.5mil for him.

I can only think of Morientes that we made a loss on.

[CAD]

And Garcia, right?

[Norbs]

yes, but for wengers bad signing, he's made sooo many amazing ones

Henry
Anelka
Fabregas
Overmars

just to name a few he made a large profit on

I'll never understand the Anelka one. Bought for about 300k and sold for 22million, christ on a bike that was a good deal!!!

[lfc1394]

And Garcia, right?

I wouldn't count that as it's all tied in with the Torres deal. As a player his value had increased from when we bought him.