Bascombe- Americans to sell up?

[AFII]

You think he had the money to do that?

Moores wasn't exactly poor. He could easily have done what I suggested because he would be 100% guaranteed to get his money back just a couple of months later. Not 99.99%, 100% guaranteed.

[sonsofthedesert]

Do you think we had money from the 2005 CL win? Does anyone think the money we get from sales, we actually get or do they NEVER count? As for the figures - how much different can they be?

Delusion on here is amazing.

Yeah we had that money before we bought Kuyt but we still needed to borrow £10m from Moores as the club couldn't borrow any more from banks.
If you feel so strongly that nothing extra than usual was done then please list the past 5 years gross spend (this is important), the net spend and our most expensive player for each year.

[Kaip]

Do you feel really hard calling me an idiot? I bet you look like a hamster in real life...

[Chris]

Oh **** off you idiot, he can say what he likes on here. If you don't like it stick it up your arse and**** right back off to TLW with all your little gimps.

Easy tiger

[marcus50bucks]

They have not paid the debts or the £10m to Moores themselves. They loaned money to pay the debts plus the £10m to Moores.

And how do you know this. Rather than nit pick why not explain whether or not you think dww analysis of the nett spend stuff makes sense. You keep suggesting nett spend but you have no idea how transfer deals work.

[AFII]

What people don't get is that the debts that the club had would have been taken off the value of the club. G+H have also not invested a single penny of their own money yet. The transfer fees of the summer were also due to the new TV money, CL final and player sales.....

I am shocked ordinary intelligent people can't see that.

They paid £280m for the club and that included the debts.

[Rashid]

Yeah we had that money before we bought Kuyt but we still needed to borrow £10m from Moores as the club couldn't borrow any more from banks.
If you feel so strongly that nothing extra than usual was done then please list the past 5 years gross spend (this is important), the net spend and our most expensive player for each year.

Why though? When in the past have we got to TWO CL finals? When have we had a TV deal that pays the bottom club £30M? This summer the club made the most it has ever made.... but spent only slightly more..

[Rashid]

They paid £280m for the club and that included the debts.

Yep, and they want to borrow £350M to pay off that, pay for Torres and Babel installments and do enough to start contruction for a few months.

[sonsofthedesert]

What people don't get is that the debts that the club had would have been taken off the value of the club. G+H have also not invested a single penny of their own money yet. The transfer fees of the summer were also due to the new TV money, CL final and player sales.....

I am shocked ordinary intelligent people can't see that.

New TV money doesn't kick in till the end of this season based upon where we finish. So this money did not effect the actual money spent.

[sonsofthedesert]

Why though? When in the past have we got to TWO CL finals? When have we had a TV deal that pays the bottom club £30M? This summer the club made the most it has ever made.... but spent only slightly more..

That £30m to the bottom club will not be paid until May 2008, so it doesn't effect what was spent last summer.

[Rashid]

New TV money doesn't kick in till the end of this season based upon where we finish. So this money did not effect the actual money spent.

That's right but clubs budget knowing there is "guarenteed money" available... we have got to 2 CL finals, have a great new TV deal, and sold loads of players - we have money.. and none of it has some from out "investors".... now they want to do a deal that puts their debts on us to the tune of £350M and looking for a way out..

[AFII]

New TV money doesn't kick in till the end of this season based upon where we finish. So this money did not effect the actual money spent.

That's probably why we have not spent them yet.....

I think we earned something like £25m from the CL and that would more or less cover our transfer deals.

[Red Chilli]

@ fredo

Fredo, you've become a proper ****-stirrer since you got the sack. At first, it pissed me off royally but now it's worn me down to the point where it is actually quite funny.
On every controversial thread you take the devil's advocate route and then when people react you become all "holier than thou".

Funny

[sonsofthedesert]

Easy tiger

Just annoys me. He is worse than AFII for using his own opinion as fact.

[marcus50bucks]

That's probably why we have not spent them yet.....

I think we earned something like £25m from the CL and that would more or less cover our transfer deals.

AF, I noticed that you have ignored commenting on dww's view on the nett spend situation.