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    #16
    Originally posted by dww View Post
    I know you are joking (and I hate the magic square formation) but I do think two genuine attacking fullbacks who are comfortable on the ball and can cross is the way forward.

    I really wish Aurelio could stay fit as he would be one of the two.
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      #17
      Originally posted by dww View Post
      I know you are joking (and I hate the magic square formation) but I do think two genuine attacking fullbacks who are comfortable on the ball and can cross is the way forward.

      I really wish Aurelio could stay fit as he would be one of the two.
      It can be the old Jones and McAteer thing going on

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        #18
        Originally posted by superdan View Post
        You dont say




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        I believe the only appropriate response is
        "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
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          #19
          Originally posted by dww View Post
          I believe the only appropriate response is
          No. You can always sinbin him.

          It would be a very popular move, believe me.
          .
          Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



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            #20
            Originally posted by dww View Post
            I know you are joking (and I hate the magic square formation) but I do think two genuine attacking fullbacks who are comfortable on the ball and can cross is the way forward.

            I really wish Aurelio could stay fit as he would be one of the two.


            I'm not sure what the future holds for Arbeloa. He is been fantastic this season but after Aurelio's performance today, I remembered how effective it can be to have fullbacks with real craft.

            If we could add two penetrative wingers too, then we could make the most of the 4-2-3-1 system that everybody seems to fancy.
            It's not good because it's rude. It's good because it looks like it's good because it's rude.

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              #21
              Originally posted by Alpha View Post


              I'm not sure what the future holds for Arbeloa. He is been fantastic this season but after Aurelio's performance today, I remembered how effective it can be to have fullbacks with real craft.

              If we could add two penetrative wingers too, then we could make the most of the 4-2-3-1 system that everybody seems to fancy.
              I think that Arbeloa will always have a squad position available to him. He can play in a number of positions and his technique is sound. He could be an equivalent of say a John O'Shea or Wes Brown in terms of squad role if he is willing to accept that. It is the sort of player in the future I would hope our academy will aim to churn out but until that is true I think he is an ideal member of the squad.
              "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
              -- William Blake

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                #22
                When was the last time a full back scored?

                Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't it Riise against PSV?

                This is a major problem we have in our current squad. Too many players apart from Torres and Gerrard that are non-existent goal threats.

                Is it any surprise then when those two are off the boil, we don't score?
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                  #23
                  Originally posted by dww View Post
                  I think that Arbeloa will always have a squad position available to him. He can play in a number of positions and his technique is sound. He could be an equivalent of say a John O'Shea or Wes Brown in terms of squad role if he is willing to accept that. It is the sort of player in the future I would hope our academy will aim to churn out but until that is true I think he is an ideal member of the squad.
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                    #24
                    Originally posted by MascheredUp View Post
                    When was the last time a full back scored?

                    Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't it Riise against PSV?
                    Reading- Arbeloa 2-1 to us

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                      #25
                      Arbeloa scored 4 days later vs. Reading away, on the 7th of April this year. But yea, there abouts were 2 fullback goals.

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by dww View Post
                        I think that Arbeloa will always have a squad position available to him. He can play in a number of positions and his technique is sound. He could be an equivalent of say a John O'Shea or Wes Brown in terms of squad role if he is willing to accept that.
                        Ridiculous, Arbeloa will be 1st choice RB very soon if he isn't already. He is rated as highly as Alonso by Rafa in terms of importance to the team, comparing him to OShea or Brown is an insult

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                          #27
                          I fully agree, maybe not with the "insult" bit...hadnt Arbeloa up until very recently played more minutes than any other player?

                          Hes a skillful player, controls the ball well and will be here for some time. An incredible bargain at 1.5m

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by Dave Benson Phillips View Post
                            Ridiculous, Arbeloa will be 1st choice RB very soon if he isn't already. He is rated as highly as Alonso by Rafa in terms of importance to the team, comparing him to OShea or Brown is an insult
                            I wasn't comparing quality, but I do think that in an attacking sense at least Arbeloa is lacking from what we need to progress as a side if we are to continue with our current team shape.

                            Also Wes Brown has improved markedly as a right back this season IMO. I still prefer Arbeloa as a player but Wes Brown fits United's system very well.
                            "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
                            -- William Blake

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                              #29
                              Heighway No9 - I've been saying the same for years

                              Wingers and fullbacks will be on the agenda in the years to come.


                              We were somewhere around Barstow on the edge of the desert when the drugs began to take hold.

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by dww View Post
                                I wasn't comparing quality, but I do think that in an attacking sense at least Arbeloa is lacking from what we need to progress as a side if we are to continue with our current team shape.

                                Also Wes Brown has improved markedly as a right back this season IMO. I still prefer Arbeloa as a player but Wes Brown fits United's system very well.
                                I think one of the main reasons why we struggle to break teams down is because our quality from the wings is sporadic.

                                Everybody contributes something but if we could match the consistent quality we have in the centre on our flanks, we would be more dangerous and more balanced. That's stating the obvious, really.

                                We should aspire to play with wingers and full-backs who can penetrate and deliver quality crosses at will.
                                It's not good because it's rude. It's good because it looks like it's good because it's rude.

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