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    #46
    Lifiting the FA Cup or a trip to Moscow would be enough to give Rafa one more season.

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      #47
      Originally posted by AFII View Post

      He is on the way to digging his own grave.

      He must sell some of the players this window to show that no one is safe and that they need to perform or they are out.
      Do you honestly believe he is in a position to do that. I hope he is but if I'm honest I'll be surprised if we get anyone half decent this window and the only person i can see him possibly being allowed to sell is Sissoko

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        #48
        Originally posted by FatTony View Post
        Rafa should stay for ever, regardless.

        Its everyone else's fault not his.

        You're all shameful.
        Are you bigfooty or djs in disguise?
        That's the one...

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          #49
          Originally posted by FatTony View Post
          Rafa should stay for ever, regardless.

          Its everyone else's fault not his.

          You're all shameful.
          havent seen anyone say anything REMOTELY like that tony

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            #50
            Originally posted by paulcooper4 View Post
            I wont even consider rafa`s position until the end of NEXT season.

            Only then in my mind will he have had a decent ammount of time to truly turn the club into HIS club and have had all his ideas bedded in place.

            Then I will sit down and see where we are going with him. I suspect by then we will be going very high places with him.

            Every season under him i have seen improvents in us of some sort and while this is happening i`m happy.

            There is nobody else out there that can do the job better IMO.
            Exactly and with the exception of Carra the other players should be ashamed of themselves. Utter ****e. They should have ****ed Luton! They played ****e and that isn't Rafa's doing!
            RAFA! RAFAEL! RAFA! RAFAEL! RAFA! RAFAEL! RAFAEL BENITEZ!

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              #51
              Originally posted by paulcooper4 View Post
              I wont even consider rafa`s position until the end of NEXT season.

              Only then in my mind will he have had a decent ammount of time to truly turn the club into HIS club and have had all his ideas bedded in place.

              Then I will sit down and see where we are going with him. I suspect by then we will be going very high places with him.

              Every season under him i have seen improvments in us of some sort and while this is happening i`m happy.

              There is nobody else out there that can do the job better IMO.
              What improvements? What is the yardstick? This is what I hear:

              - A better squad - really? I'd be rid of at least half of them.
              - A better league position - same as we were four years ago
              - A better challenge for the league - we haven't challenged past January

              The only ones I see are we are better in Europe and our academy has more potential but the last one remains to be seen of course.

              I certainly don't see any improvement in our tactics, formation, quality of football and the motivation level of the players today was simply shocking. I'm all for giving him until the end of the season but if it's more of the same I would want a new manager.

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                #52
                Originally posted by FatTony View Post
                Rafa should stay for ever, regardless.

                Its everyone else's fault not his.

                You're all shameful.
                How about looking at the ****ing players though? Rafa isn't always right. Noone is saying that but every one of them players, that team should have beaten Luton today!
                RAFA! RAFAEL! RAFA! RAFAEL! RAFA! RAFAEL! RAFAEL BENITEZ!

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                  #53
                  Originally posted by Red_hot View Post
                  Exactly and with the exception of Carra the other players should be ashamed of themselves. Utter ****e. They should have ****ed Luton! They played ****e and that isn't Rafa's doing!
                  I think Rafa has to share some of the blame for the lack of motivation in the side to be honest.

                  I still think he is the man for us long term but he has made some strange decisions of late and our team and squad have looked flat. For me he will have to turn this round to justify staying at the club beyond this season but I have absolute confidence he will.
                  "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
                  -- William Blake

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                    #54
                    Originally posted by dww View Post
                    I think Rafa has to share some of the blame for the lack of motivation in the side to be honest.

                    I still think he is the man for us long term but he has made some strange decisions of late and our team and squad have looked flat. For me he will have to turn this round to justify staying at the club beyond this season but I have absolute confidence he will.
                    Lack of motivation? The amount of money they are earning should be motivation enough!
                    RAFA! RAFAEL! RAFA! RAFAEL! RAFA! RAFAEL! RAFAEL BENITEZ!

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                      #55
                      Originally posted by vonk View Post
                      What improvements? What is the yardstick? This is what I hear:

                      - A better squad - really? I'd be rid of at least half of them.
                      - A better league position - same as we were four years ago
                      - A better challenge for the league - we haven't challenged past January

                      The only ones I see are we are better in Europe and our academy has more potential but the last one remains to be seen of course.

                      I certainly don't see any improvement in our tactics, formation, quality of football and the motivation level of the players today was simply shocking. I'm all for giving him until the end of the season but if it's more of the same I would want a new manager.
                      the yardstick is my eyes and my common sense. The squad now is light years ahead of the pile of ****e he inherited from Houllier (even though they seem to have trouble proving this points wise)

                      Our style of football and our tactics are 1 trillion per cent better than they where under Houllier.

                      If you have seen much of the reserves and the acadamy teams im sure you will agree there is some ridiculously good young talent that Rafa has bought here and is going to pay dividends big style in a couple of years when they start breaking through.

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                        #56
                        Originally posted by Red_hot View Post
                        How about looking at the ****ing players though? Rafa isn't always right. Noone is saying that but every one of them players, that team should have beaten Luton today!

                        At some point though it has to come back to the manager if the players are **** on a semi-regular basis. Kuyt, for example, seems undroppable even though his form has been poor all season.

                        I would like to give Rafa until the end of next season really. I'm grateful to him for lots of things. You can easily forgive a crap performance even if it pisses you off. But if they aren't isolated events, if you are constantly questioning team selection and style of play, it takes longer and longer for the doubts to go each time. I hope to God he turns it around by the end of the season.
                        Experimental music, Metropolitan foodstuffs, Mexican wrestler art, London suburbia, wry whimsy, fansy pants flim flam lad

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                          #57
                          Originally posted by Red_hot View Post
                          Lack of motivation? The amount of money they are earning should be motivation enough!
                          Players who play for liverpool football club should not NEED motivating

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                            #58
                            Originally posted by vonk View Post
                            What improvements? What is the yardstick? This is what I hear:

                            - A better squad - really? I'd be rid of at least half of them.
                            - A better league position - same as we were four years ago
                            - A better challenge for the league - we haven't challenged past January

                            The only ones I see are we are better in Europe and our academy has more potential but the last one remains to be seen of course.

                            I certainly don't see any improvement in our tactics, formation, quality of football and the motivation level of the players today was simply shocking. I'm all for giving him until the end of the season but if it's more of the same I would want a new manager.
                            Agree.

                            We need to back him between now and May and hope things turn around.

                            But I'm sceptical now. Not point in denying it. I've lost faith in him.
                            I hate Polanski

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                              #59
                              Originally posted by vonk View Post
                              What improvements? What is the yardstick? This is what I hear:

                              - A better squad - really? I'd be rid of at least half of them.
                              - A better league position - same as we were four years ago
                              - A better challenge for the league - we haven't challenged past January

                              The only ones I see are we are better in Europe and our academy has more potential but the last one remains to be seen of course.

                              I certainly don't see any improvement in our tactics, formation, quality of football and the motivation level of the players today was simply shocking. I'm all for giving him until the end of the season but if it's more of the same I would want a new manager.
                              You really know nothing about football do you?
                              That's the one...

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                                #60


                                Get the owners out now

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