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Jay since your up late im on XBOX Live if you want a game
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Originally posted by thesilverfoxlfc View PostJay since your up late I've got a boner if you want some fun
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But as we see year in year out, it's not about beating the top 4. It's beating everyone else. Didn't Arsenal do the double over Man U last year?Originally posted by bazza76 View Post
PS Our top 4 is better than their top 4, I agree
Quote of the year :
"With monkey me, dogface dishwasher bitch and chimp the ****ing champ you. We are turning into a raving party here arent we"
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good post and good points - in fact the best post ive ever read of yoursOriginally posted by DJS View PostI posted this on the other thread, but since so many people use the Valencia example, i'll give it its own thread so that people can either agree or disagree and explain why they disagree...hopefully without abuse
It's obviously about why i dont think Rafa's title wins in Spain mean anything with regards to proving he can win the Premier League...
I dont see why people cant grasp that it's different.
His Valencia title winning sides won the league with 77 and 75 points.
Where do you think that would leave you in the Premier League? About third is the answer.
The difference when he was at Valencia, was that you probably COULD afford to draw quite a few games that you're expected to win. He could probably afford to draw at home to La Liga's equivalents to Brum, Wigan and Spurs. It doesnt work that way here.
Even last season, La Liga was won by 76 points. That's all. 76. The season before it was 82 (and Barca won it by 12 points, meaning a tally in the early 70s would've still won it).
Before that, it was 84. This was the highest points tally recorded in La Liga since 1997.
In La Liga, they only started giving 3 points for a win from the 1995-1996 season...and they only dropped down to 20 league clubs (and 38 league games) from 1997-1998. So i'll use 1997-1998 upto 2006-2007 for my example. 10 years worth.
During this time period, the average total points tally for the league champions in spain is 77.4 points.
During the same period in the Premier League, the average total points tally for the leeague champions is 86.3 points.
So that's a difference of basically 9 points.
During those 10 years, the highest tally for La Liga champions was 84, achieved by Barcelona in 2004-2005.
84 points would only have won you the Premier League in four out of those 10 years.
In 1999-2000, Deportivo won La Liga with just 69 points.
During the whole history of the Premier League, 69 points would only once have seen a side finish above 3rd...and that's only one solitary season. In all the other seasons, 69 points would've got you a 3rd or 4th placed finish.
Now do you see why Rafa's methodology that won him La Liga is meaningless here? Because you need to achieve far more to win the Premier League than you do to win La Liga.
If someone can argue my point, then please do so.
I've backed this up with facts and statistics. If someone can dispute it doing the same thing, then fair play.
my conclusion would not be that rafa will never win the league with valncia "tactics" etc but that the epl is very very polarised and the middle and lower teams are generally worse than their spanish equivalents. that said, i think this season will see the lowest winning points total for some years: 83 might do it.
I think the middling teams like city/spurs/west ham/villa/pompey and the blushyte will all take points of the big boys in the 2nd half of the season as theyre all looking stronger squad wise than in previous years.
add to that the fact that the relegation fodder often fight for their lives in the second half of the season and i think theres a few twists and turns left.
chavski will be greatly weakened without dogbreath/essien/mikkel etc at the africa cup and terry and the keeper injured.
the arse will have a big hole in their side where senderos is standing instead of toure
the scum look strong but theyve gonna have a big pile up of games on 3 fronts if they progress in europe and im not so convinced about their squad. i actually think wed cope better without gerrard or torres than they would without ronaldo. Weve missed agger for a few months now - i dont think theyll look as invincible if vidic or the drug cheat gets a similar injury
i dont think well win (or meaningfully challenge for) the league but i think well improve on last years points totaldrunk knows bestComment
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yes.Originally posted by disco View PostBut as we see year in year out, it's not about beating the top 4. It's beating everyone else. Didn't Arsenal do the double over Man U last year?
PS Our top 4 is better than their top 4, I agreeBill shankly to Tommy Smith after he'd turned up for training with a bandaged knee:
'Take that poof bandage off, and what do you mean YOUR knee, it's LIVERPOOL'S knee !'
"Sorry, boss, I should have kept my legs together," said Lawrence. "No, Tommy, your mother should have kept her legs together!," replied Shankly.
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Thats what im talking about HomiOriginally posted by kurtangle01 View Post
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Jay is just after having his milk and cookies, and is in bed now mateOriginally posted by thesilverfoxlfc View PostJay since your up late im on XBOX Live if you want a game
Bill shankly to Tommy Smith after he'd turned up for training with a bandaged knee:
'Take that poof bandage off, and what do you mean YOUR knee, it's LIVERPOOL'S knee !'
"Sorry, boss, I should have kept my legs together," said Lawrence. "No, Tommy, your mother should have kept her legs together!," replied Shankly.
* After Tommy Lawrence had let in a fluke goal between his legsComment
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Originally posted by thesilverfoxlfc View PostThats what im talking about Homo
Bill shankly to Tommy Smith after he'd turned up for training with a bandaged knee:
'Take that poof bandage off, and what do you mean YOUR knee, it's LIVERPOOL'S knee !'
"Sorry, boss, I should have kept my legs together," said Lawrence. "No, Tommy, your mother should have kept her legs together!," replied Shankly.
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I see your "away" for the last few hours, whats that about??Originally posted by bazza76 View PostJay is just after having his milk and cookies, and is in bed now mate
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Babel fanclub member # 4!!!
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Originally posted by kopdan View PostThought the same when I saw the team. Rafa knew they'd sit back, so (IMO) the idea was to use the wingers to swing in the crosses and have the mids running in for the knock downs (whether they from from Torres or defenders). Also, maybe it'd try and stretch them a little too.Originally posted by King Kenny 07 View Post
Even Mascher was getting in on the act, attacking! I think I even remember him running in on a shot hoping the keeper would spill it
Well, here we are in a room with two manky hookers and a racist dwarf. I think I'm heading home.Comment
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Did we really need another thread on this?
Time to turn our attentions to supporting Rafa and the lads against ****ty ****in Boro. We need a win.
That's unless he starts with Kuyt.....
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Then we`ll be back to this thread.Originally posted by CharlieMansonsSquint View PostDid we really need another thread on this?
Time to turn our attentions to supporting Rafa and the lads against ****ty ****in Boro. We need a win.
That's unless he starts with Kuyt.....
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Just make it a sticky then for everytime we lose.Originally posted by Johnny View PostThen we`ll be back to this thread.
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