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    Originally posted by Ben Tover View Post
    And people talk about Rafa doesn't deserve the stick?

    Look at todays performance. Look at the Luton game and so on..
    I think all this speculation has got to everyone, if Rafa knows it to be true, & he will either way with his connections in footie it could affect him big time, he obviously wants more than anything to stay & win us the title, & if He knows his job was offered & he's not wanted here it'll hurt, what do the players know about it too, i got the feeling that along with the lure of LFC as a club Torres was coming to join the Rafalution. On a better note what a piece of genius by Torres today, if we can just add a couple or 3 more like him. ps. I'm yet to be convinced FOR CERTAIN Rafa's job was waved under the Germans big nose.

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      Rafa is history unless he realizes real quick that SG CANNOT be the playmaker in a two man CM. He needs to push SG out wide and play Xabi and El Jefecito in CM.

      SG just cannot bring others into the game, Benni, Voronin, Torres got bugger all service today. Benni and Torres can win us games but if we can't get the ball to them they may as well be on the sidelines.

      It's all about balance and Rafa hasn't got long to sort it out.
      The Crushing Machine MKII

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        Originally posted by -V- View Post
        Ok i sympathise with you then. I suppose if your 45 your arrogant attitude can be understood
        And calling someone you don't know 'son' isn't arrogant?

        Let's leave it there '-V-' before you regret saying something else, eh?
        There is a light that never goes out. RIP Alan "Mally" Johnston and the 96. YNWA.

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          Originally posted by disco View Post
          Alun - I've said it before, teams are very hard to beat at home. It's very rare that any side in the premiership ends the season with a win record much above 50%
          Boro had lost half their home matches prior to this game today. Only Derby had a poorer record. We relied on injury time goal to beat one of them and couldn't beat the other. Says a lot really.

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            It'd be a start just to have a teamsheet that I didn't groan at to be honest.

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              Originally posted by REDrascal View Post
              I think all this speculation has got to everyone, if Rafa knows it to be true, & he will either way with his connections in footie it could affect him big time, he obviously wants more than anything to stay & win us the title, & if He knows his job was offered & he's not wanted here it'll hurt, what do the players know about it too, i got the feeling that along with the lure of LFC as a club Torres was coming to join the Rafalution. On a better note what a piece of genius by Torres today, if we can just add a couple or 3 more like him. ps. I'm yet to be convinced FOR CERTAIN Rafa's job was waved under the Germans big nose.
              I don't think Ottmar Hitzfeld wants the Liverpool job

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                Originally posted by -V- View Post
                Ok i sympathise with you then. I suppose if your 45 your arrogant attitude can be understood



                once a prick, always a prick
                All hat and no cattle

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                    Originally posted by alunevans View Post
                    It'd be a start just to have a teamsheet that I didn't groan at to be honest.
                    There's a way to deal with that.

                    Sell the likes of Pennant, Voronin, Kuyt and especially Riise in this window.

                    Then they can't start.

                    I'd really start to believe in Rafa again if showed the bottle to do that.

                    Think the whole squad needs a shakeup to be honest.
                    I hate Polanski

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                      Originally posted by bigfooty View Post
                      Boro had lost half their home matches prior to this game today. Only Derby had a poorer record. We relied on injury time goal to beat one of them and couldn't beat the other. Says a lot really.
                      Not saying it isn't a disappointing and **** result, just saying that you can't take away wins for granted.

                      I seriously don't get why it happens, it just does.
                      Quote of the year :

                      "With monkey me, dogface dishwasher bitch and chimp the ****ing champ you. We are turning into a raving party here arent we"

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                        Originally posted by SpeedyG View Post
                        Rafa is history unless he realizes real quick that SG CANNOT be the playmaker in a two man CM. He needs to push SG out wide and play Xabi and El Jefecito in CM.

                        SG just cannot bring others into the game, Benni, Voronin, Torres got bugger all service today. Benni and Torres can win us games but if we can't get the ball to them they may as well be on the sidelines.

                        It's all about balance and Rafa hasn't got long to sort it out.
                        What a load of ****ing bollocks.
                        I hate Polanski

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                          Originally posted by Kaip View Post
                          once a prick, always a prick
                          Originally posted by -V- View Post
                          I think Kaip was laughing at you not with you, fella...
                          There is a light that never goes out. RIP Alan "Mally" Johnston and the 96. YNWA.

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                            Originally posted by CharlieMansonsSquint View Post
                            What a load of ****ing bollocks.
                            I think he has a point.
                            Besides, even with an Alonso very much off the boil, we got better when he came on and SG was released further forward.
                            --== Because the gang and the government is no different ==--

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                              We need an "in the hole" player to link the midfield with Torres. Simple as.
                              Dare we believe

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                                Originally posted by 215liverpool View Post
                                Guys, has anyone considered this scenario that players know that Rafa is leaving and that's what's effecting them or some of them.

                                I know we drew with Man City but the team performed 10 times better than they did today.

                                Do you think the players know something we don't?
                                Totally agree, they seem unsettled, preoccupied even. I dont know whats true or false, i know the written press are mainly scum, ok so i know thats true, but on Rafa i think there is only one story that the club needed to put to bed once & for all over the last fort night & we know the one, now this from Germany, i just want it sorted, Rafa given money to TRULY challenge & a guarantee of this season & atleast 2 more for him, then assess.

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