Dubai International to make bid for Liverpool FC

[Pacman]

Tick tock.

[Rashid] Only a matter of days now [/Rashid]

Tick tock.

[Lecter]

Tick tock.

[Rashid] Only a matter of days now [/Rashid]

Tick tock.

Blankstone has an ear or two inside LFC

IF he states this As stated above DIC did not walk away from LFC I would stake my house on DIC being interested in the club

Whether they get their hands on it is another matter

[Lecter]

Well you tell that Di Stewart that she doesn't know what she is missing out on

Anyway DIC can have an interest in our club if they want but it's clear H&G have no intentions of selling unless they make a huge profit.

It's debatable that DIC have even made a bid.

My main point is that Rashid came on here claiming we would be bought in a couple of days. This was now weeks ago so he is clearly talking bollocks as per usual.

Is it really clear that G&H arent selling unless they make a huge profit?

I think thats the public perception they want to give off and who can blame them

However I'm not convinced they will hang on to the club nor am I convinced that they will get the "massive profit" they are suggested to be asking

Its hard to say what exactly will happen, lots of games and posturing going on from both sides

The general view from some of the financial people I have spoken to (competitors of Blankstone) is the owners are actively looking to sell and that its more a case of when not if that happens

[Pacman]

Is it really clear that G&H arent selling unless they make a huge profit?

I think thats the public perception they want to give off and who can blame them

However I'm not convinced they will hang on to the club nor am I convinced that they will get the "massive profit" they are suggested to be asking

Its hard to say what exactly will happen, lots of games and posturing going on from both sides

The general view from some of the financial people I have spoken to (competitors of Blankstone) is the owners are actively looking to sell and that its more a case of when not if that happens

I'll believe it when I see it Lec mate.

[Pacman]

Ye of little faith

I'm yet to be convinced DIC would be any better to be honest but that's another argument.

I want these yanks gone more than anything however with the refinancing now sorted to an extent I get the feeling they are going to ride it out.

[Lecter]

I'm yet to be convinced DIC would be any better to be honest but that's another argument.

I want these yanks gone more than anything however with the refinancing now sorted to an extent I get the feeling they are going to ride it out.

The refinance only buys them time to negotiate imo

Its got to be refinanced again in 18 months time

[CAD]

The refinance only buys them time to negotiate imo

Its got to be refinanced again in 18 months time

Which will be when they exit. I don't believe that they will sell sooner. Not unless are prepared to sweeten the deal. Imagine how much we will be valued at in july 2009 compared to now. It makes sense that they will wait imho.

[bobbyfallon]

Which will be when they exit. I don't believe that they will sell sooner. Not unless are prepared to sweeten the deal. Imagine how much we will be valued at in july 2009 compared to now. It makes sense that they will wait imho.

agreed this is possibly why DIC are trying to get it now. if they buy in 2009 your right the price will have gone up again.

inflation is a cunt!!!

:hopeto****DICareinforussmilie:

[Lecter]

Which will be when they exit. I don't believe that they will sell sooner. Not unless are prepared to sweeten the deal. Imagine how much we will be valued at in july 2009 compared to now. It makes sense that they will wait imho.

It would depend on our league position then and also how far along the stadium is or isnt

The one thing from this plan that would concern me is that for us to improve on the pitch (and even to maintain 4th spot) they are going to have to plough money in and a lot of it imo

They have to weigh up whether that extra spend for on the pitch improvement will reap them significant profits when they sell

I'm not convinced they have the capability to inject capital (its certainly doubtful about Gillett) to earn those huge profit margins they are dreaming of

Unless they are going to add it to the club as a debt in which case that would devalue the assett itself as well

Its going to be a tough one for them to be honest

I can see the logic in waiting but its a MASSIVE gamble imo

It also goes against what many financial people are saying

[carrsim]

It would depend on our league position then and also how far along the stadium is or isnt

The one thing from this plan that would concern me is that for us to improve on the pitch (and even to maintain 4th spot) they are going to have to plough money in and a lot of it imo

They have to weigh up whether that extra spend for on the pitch improvement will reap them significant profits when they sell

I'm not convinced they have the capability to inject capital (its certainly doubtful about Gillett) to earn those huge profit margins they are dreaming of

Unless they are going to add it to the club as a debt in which case that would devalue the assett itself as well

Its going to be a tough one for them to be honest

I can see the logic in waiting but its a MASSIVE gamble imo

It also goes against what many financial people are saying

all i can see is that united and chelsea have the financial clout to occupy 2 of the (current) 4 available CL spots.

Arsenal have an excellent squad, manager and now the financial clout that will only increase as the emirates revenue really kicks in, so will more often than not take one of the others.

that leaves us, everton (good squad, well run, need to spend to go next level) spurs (decent manager, decent squad, sure to spend) man city (thaksin to spend before he has to give it all back) villa (slow and steady development) and newcastle (sure to spend before the implosion) all fighting for a 4th spot.

i'd like to think that this season is a blip (we have at times played some good stuff) but its not going to get any easier financially speaking to qualify. let alone challenge

[el matador]

It would depend on our league position then and also how far along the stadium is or isnt

The one thing from this plan that would concern me is that for us to improve on the pitch (and even to maintain 4th spot) they are going to have to plough money in and a lot of it imo

They have to weigh up whether that extra spend for on the pitch improvement will reap them significant profits when they sell

I'm not convinced they have the capability to inject capital (its certainly doubtful about Gillett) to earn those huge profit margins they are dreaming of

Unless they are going to add it to the club as a debt in which case that would devalue the assett itself as well

Its going to be a tough one for them to be honest

I can see the logic in waiting but its a MASSIVE gamble imo

It also goes against what many financial people are saying

The hold up seems is the placed upon the club by hicks and gillett. They seem to think that they club has gone from being worth around £180m to around £1bn because of the new stadium that is supposed to being built in 3 years time and the increased revenue from that.

The only problem with that is that the effin stadium hasnt been built yet, we dont even have planning permission for the effer, the the effin owners seem to think that even without these seemingly important factors the club might be valued at £1bn.

it seems like we've been effed lads.

[Exiled_red]

The hold up seems is the placed upon the club by hicks and gillett. They seem to think that they club has gone from being worth around £180m to around £1bn because of the new stadium that is supposed to being built in 3 years time and the increased revenue from that.

The only problem with that is that the effin stadium hasnt been built yet, we dont even have planning permission for the effer, the the effin owners seem to think that even without these seemingly important factors the club might be valued at £1bn.

it seems like we've been effed lads.

I've said before I think Hicks only intends hanging around until the club are committed to building the new ground, that way he will get a significant increase on his investment due to the stadium being underway, but without having to splash the cash and pay for it (even provide security to borrow the money against)

[wishiwasascouser]

I've said before I think Hicks only intends hanging around until the club are committed to building the new ground, that way he will get a significant increase on his investment due to the stadium being underway, but without having to splash the cash and pay for it (even provide security to borrow the money against)

Thats not an entirely bad thing, I love the stadium design and would love to see it built, just so long as DIC don't get ideas about sharing it to spread the cost...

[CAD]

I think they would sell for less. DIC is probably ready to offer 320 and G&H probably want 370 or something. Will they agree? Doubt it. G&H knows that they can dance again later. Time is on their side. As for the financing. I think they will have little trouble with that considering the valuation of LFC and other clubs. It's only gonna keep going up.

I don't really see a HUGE risk. They need to find a little money for a good transfer window. Consider Carson, Crouch and Alonso etc and their value in the market and add 20mill£ and G&H will be well on their way. Enough to keep us competitive as far as I can see.

My point is that it's almost a sure hedge that LFC will increase value and the money needed to get us there until 2009 will not be a problem. Over the next 18 month they can start looking for other investors as well.

Either DIC pays over the top now (Considering that the stadium is not in place etc etc) or they will pay even more later if they really want LFC.

That's my guess anyway fwiw.

[el matador]

I've said before I think Hicks only intends hanging around until the club are committed to building the new ground, that way he will get a significant increase on his investment due to the stadium being underway, but without having to splash the cash and pay for it (even provide security to borrow the money against)

using their model for valuing the club how on earth did Parry and moores sell the club to them in the first place with planning permission for a 60k stadium for only £180m.

hicks and gillett are asking for near to £1bn for our club with no planning permission for a 71k stadium.

surely on that basis our club should have been valued at around £800m

I cant for the life of me see why the club is all of a sudden valued at that ridiculous price. Its obvious that they are trying it on and that as lec says in 18 months they will have to refinance again.

If you look at their whole business strategy - its all short term. The short term initial loan that had to be refinanced 12 months later and the second re-finance to be re-financed another 18 months later.

there's no question they want to sell - i just hope they dont act like ******s and hold out for a sum that no one will pay and in the meantime we suffer.