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    #46
    Originally posted by carheex View Post
    Did Rafa threaten to quit?
    Dunno

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      #47
      He wouldn't have been stupid enough to offer to quit, if he resigned then he walks without a pay off (before all this constructive dismissal stuff after the Klinsman meeting became public)
      The reason why he is still our manager is because the yanks know that to pay off Rafa and his staff, then pay to recruit the new manager and his backroom staff will run to over £10 million conservatively and that's without paying off the players who leave when the new manager doesn't want them.
      The King was back for a short while. Long live The King.

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        #48
        Originally posted by The Birdman View Post
        The reason why he is still our manager is because the yanks know that to pay off Rafa and his staff, then pay to recruit the new manager and his backroom staff will run to over £10 million conservatively and that's without paying off the players who leave when the new manager doesn't want them.
        Just as a guess, who do you think would want to leave if Rafa left? Just the spaniards?

        Reina - same agent as Rafa, yes
        Arbeloa - yes
        Alonso - yes
        Torres - not sure
        What do you mean it could've been anyone? Name me one person who's got a grudge against penguins

        Batman

        F*** off!!!

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          #49
          Originally posted by Yozza View Post
          Just as a guess, who do you think would want to leave if Rafa left? Just the spaniards?

          Reina - same agent as Rafa, yes
          Arbeloa - yes
          Alonso - yes
          Torres - not sure
          Reina, Alonso, Arbeloa, Mascherano, Lucas, Aurelio and maybe Gerrard and Torres.

          Gerrard would then again have to decide if it's worth to start all over again with a new manager with very little chance to win the PL or to go to a club that can win the title.

          I'm not that sure that he would be prepared to stay with a new manager that won't get the funds we need to be able to win the PL.
          Just believe and you never know what will happen.

          According to Benitez it's important not simply to go out to win but to go out prepared to win, which means players have to put in the same level of work on a daily basis. Anything else is unacceptable.

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            #50
            Originally posted by AFII View Post
            Reina, Alonso, Arbeloa, Mascherano, Lucas, Aurelio and maybe Gerrard and Torres.

            Gerrard would then again have to decide if it's worth to start all over again with a new manager with very little chance to win the PL or to go to a club that can win the title.

            I'm not that sure that he would be prepared to stay with a new manager that won't get the funds we need to be able to win the PL.
            Hmm I was just focusing on the Spaniards...

            Depressed now - Cheers AFII ya ywat.
            What do you mean it could've been anyone? Name me one person who's got a grudge against penguins

            Batman

            F*** off!!!

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              #51
              Originally posted by Yozza View Post
              Just as a guess, who do you think would want to leave if Rafa left? Just the spaniards?

              Reina - same agent as Rafa, yes
              Arbeloa - yes
              Alonso - yes
              Torres - not sure
              This depends on where Rafa ended up.
              If he took over at RM or another big club some of the players would have wanted to leave with him, but would he bring them along? If he joined a big club doing well a player like Arbeloa might not cut it.
              If he ended up at a medium spanish/italian club I doubt players like Alonso and Reina would join him.
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                #52
                Originally posted by Yozza View Post
                Hmm I was just focusing on the Spaniards...

                Depressed now - Cheers AFII ya ywat.
                Just believe and you never know what will happen.

                According to Benitez it's important not simply to go out to win but to go out prepared to win, which means players have to put in the same level of work on a daily basis. Anything else is unacceptable.

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                  #53
                  Originally posted by AFII View Post
                  Reina, Alonso, Arbeloa, Mascherano, Lucas, Aurelio and maybe Gerrard and Torres.

                  Gerrard would then again have to decide if it's worth to start all over again with a new manager with very little chance to win the PL or to go to a club that can win the title.

                  I'm not that sure that he would be prepared to stay with a new manager that won't get the funds we need to be able to win the PL.
                  Fernando Torres

                  I dont just love him, I'm IN love with him

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                    #54
                    To state the obvious anyone who features under Rafa but doesn't under the new manager will want to leave.
                    Hypothetically if Klinnsman had got the job and replaced one of Arbeola/Finnan/Riise etc.. with Lahm then we wouldn't be complaining but we would still have to pay the transfer fee for Lahm, pay his wages, pay off whoever he replaces so on so on, it's not just if the better players leave. If Leto (for example) leaves without submitting a written transfer request we have to pay up his contract
                    The King was back for a short while. Long live The King.

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                      #55
                      Originally posted by Yozza View Post
                      Hmm I was just focusing on the Spaniards...

                      Depressed now - Cheers AFII ya ywat.
                      I think it's ludicrous to assume that because Rafa is Spanish, all Spanish players would want to leave if he left!!

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                        #56
                        Originally posted by carheex View Post
                        I think it's ludicrous to assume that because Rafa is Spanish, all Spanish players would want to leave if he left!!

                        It probably is but the post you've highlighted doesn't suggest that. It suggests that the Spanish players would be the one's most of us would be most worried about leaving if Rafa went.

                        Considering we have a Spanish coach surely it's quite a reasonable line of thought?
                        "My commitment to Liverpool is 100 per cent. I would die for that Liverpool shirt. I think the club loves me and I feel the same, no matter what the situation." - Pepe Reina, Nov '09.

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                          #57
                          Originally posted by BFG View Post
                          It probably is but the post you've highlighted doesn't suggest that. It suggests that the Spanish players would be the one's most of us would be most worried about leaving if Rafa went.

                          Considering we have a Spanish coach surely it's quite a reasonable line of thought?
                          Not a reasonable line of thought at all. It's the kind of thing a lazy journalist might come up with - not someone with any level of rational and logical reasoning.

                          Name a few managers that have left their club and were followed by a mass exodus of their fellow countrymen.....

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                            #58
                            Originally posted by Yozza View Post
                            Just as a guess, who do you think would want to leave if Rafa left? Just the spaniards?

                            Reina - same agent as Rafa, yes
                            Arbeloa - yes
                            Alonso - yes
                            Torres - not sure
                            Surely who would come in would have a huge impact? Look at Chelsea before Ranieri left - hlaf the team were actively threatening to leave if he went - when Mourinho came in they all changed their tune.
                            "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
                            -- William Blake

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                              #59
                              Originally posted by Rashid View Post
                              I have huge problems with G+H in the way they went public with Rafa and their lies. However, Rafa went public first and Rafa is the one still not cutting it in the league and yes Rafa is the one who spoke about wanting the England job. I wouldn't be that bothered if Rafa was sacked...

                              And I was just starting to like you

                              Who you replacing Rafa with, Rash?
                              Nah. He won't win the Prem. You can quote me on that. - Sarb24

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                                #60
                                Originally posted by Skillz View Post
                                And I was just starting to like you

                                Who you replacing Rafa with, Rash?
                                Managers who have won things, managers who will take us to the next level of football away from the disgusting pragmatism of Houllier and the "control" obsessed pragmatism of Benitez. Managers who have experience of managing big clubs and handling the pressure - managers who don't need 5 year plans to challenge for the league title... Rijkaard and Hiddink would be a good start.

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