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    #16
    Originally posted by Slinky Skills View Post
    Can you blame them, we were losing to a non-league team at half time at home. I'd be ****ing booing if I was there!!
    booing for that reason would have made you a muppet then because it was 2-2 at half time

    there's a ****ing big scoreboard if you need help though
    "At a football club, there's a holy trinity - the players, the manager and the supporters. Directors don't come into it. They are only there to sign the cheques"

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      #17
      its too ****ing easy to boo
      your not watching some pantomine or big brother.
      Parry is a clown. En Rafa que confiamos

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        #18
        I can understand why people boo but it's not something I'd get involved in. Anyway football is dying on the terraces. People want to sit down and be entertained as if they were watching a TV programme. Being in a crowd at a football game is about playing out your emotions with whatever is happening during the game. I don't want to go to a game and be depressed by the people around me. I want to be part of an experience.

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          #19
          Originally posted by Red_Al_77 View Post
          I can understand why people boo but it's not something I'd get involved in. Anyway football is dying on the terraces. People want to sit down and be entertained as if they were watching a TV programme. Being in a crowd at a football game is about playing out your emotions with whatever is happening during the game. I don't want to go to a game and be depressed by the people around me. I want to be part of an experience.
          Yeah Al- our fans are **** in general!
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          "The match day experience between now and 25 years ago is worlds apart and deeply anaesthetised, with a large dollop of blatant "**** you" cynicism thrown at us for good measure."- Alunevans

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            #20
            Originally posted by Jacko View Post
            How can i be so sure?

            Well in days gone by (and god am i getting ****in bored of talking about these) there was a connection between the fans and players- you'd frequently see players having a bevvie in town or around the ground. If you read books by the fans on Euro aways the fans and players used to travel on the same plane half the time with the fans frequently mingling with the players and having a bit of banter. Why do you think there's more legends in the past and why fans from the generation before mine adore players like Dalglish, Rush, Thompson etc- I mean FFS Thommo took that big eared Beauty into his local in Kirkby. If thos eplayers got booed it probably hurt a lot- it wasn't just 11 players on a pitch- these players where friends of the fans and new what life was like for them.

            Look at them now- They don't have a clue. Do you think they're THAT arsed when they get booed off, or when they're hauled off after a terrible performance. Do you also think our captains in the past would have flirted outrageously with one of our main rivals for two consecutive summers- not only that a captain who's a native of the club and city?

            I suppose the correct answer is mate I can't be sure but i've got a pretty good ****ing Idea. Last year in Barcelona Alonso had three people around him telling me to **** off while I approached him for nothing more than an autograph. i certainly won't blame Xabi for that but you get my drift- these ****ers are spoilt brats who need a reality check!
            I don't disagree that they're cut off from reality and that's bad in lots of ways.

            I think the way players and managers always go on about the fans singing for them in times of trouble (e.g. Istanbul at half-time, not to ignore what lfcruleus says above) suggests that support would usually be more effective. Of course harsh criticism can work but only when it is the exception rather than the rule.

            That said, I don't blame people for booing yesterday or any time. I just question how effective it is.
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            Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



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              #21
              Originally posted by Red_Al_77 View Post
              I can understand why people boo but it's not something I'd get involved in. Anyway football is dying on the terraces. People want to sit down and be entertained as if they were watching a TV programme. Being in a crowd at a football game is about playing out your emotions with whatever is happening during the game. I don't want to go to a game and be depressed by the people around me. I want to be part of an experience.
              But its not about that anymore. I wish it was.

              Try doing that where I sit and you get a copper pointing at you. And I don't mean for doing anything wrong, but simply for getting emotionally involved in the theatre of it all.

              I'm convinced that when people talk about the match experience that they are romantically going from memory rather than current truth.

              The match day experience between now and 25 years ago is worlds apart and deeply anaesthetised, with a large dollop of blatant "**** you" cynicism thrown at us for good measure.

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                #22
                Originally posted by Neil Young View Post
                I don't disagree that they're cut off from reality and that's bad in lots of ways.

                I think the way players and managers always go on about the fans singing for them in times of trouble (e.g. Istanbul at half-time, not to ignore what lfcruleus says above) suggests that support would usually be more effective. Of course harsh criticism can work but only when it is the exception rather than the rule.

                That said, I don't blame people for booing yesterday or any time. I just question how effective it is.
                I don't think people boo in order to be effective. They boo because they've worked all week, they'll be working for the rest of the month, they know they've got no money now cos they just spent it on the match, they've got **** all to look forward to for the rest of the month because that was their entire leisure budget down the swanny, and someone just got paid 70k to take the piss out of them.

                It's not about man management techniques and whats effective. Its an angry reaction to someone treating you like ****e.

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by ronan View Post
                  its too ****ing easy to boo
                  your not watching some pantomine.
                  I beg to differ.
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                    #24
                    Originally posted by alunevans View Post
                    But its not about that anymore. I wish it was.

                    Try doing that where I sit and you get a copper pointing at you. And I don't mean for doing anything wrong, but simply for getting emotionally involved in the theatre of it all.

                    I'm convinced that when people talk about the match experience that they are romantically going from memory rather than current truth.

                    The match day experience between now and 25 years ago is worlds apart and deeply anaesthetised, with a large dollop of blatant "**** you" cynicism thrown at us for good measure.
                    It's a sign of the times at most grounds though. Football has moved away from the tribal scenario to something akin to going to the cinema or the theatre. Football needs to return to its roots otherwise it will become just a mere spectacle for TV.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Slinky Skills View Post
                      Can you blame them, we were losing to a non-league team at half time at home. I'd be ****ing booing if I was there!!
                      Losing at half time? which match were you watching, it was2-2 at Anfield!!

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Red_Al_77 View Post
                        It's a sign of the times at most grounds though. Football has moved away from the tribal scenario to something akin to going to the cinema or the theatre. Football needs to return to its roots otherwise it will become just a mere spectacle for TV.
                        But it IS a mere spectacle for TV. Haven't you noticed how we rarely play Sat at 3pm anymore.

                        Its all about TV, and we're the extras they need for the crowd noise. Except soft arses that we are, we pay HUGE sums for the privilege.

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                          #27
                          didnt his hicksness say in his interview that he was looking forward to comung to more liverpool matches, the kop should be in fine voice for that.
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                            #28
                            Originally posted by alunevans View Post
                            But its not about that anymore. I wish it was.

                            Try doing that where I sit and you get a copper pointing at you. And I don't mean for doing anything wrong, but simply for getting emotionally involved in the theatre of it all.

                            I'm convinced that when people talk about the match experience that they are romantically going from memory rather than current truth.

                            The match day experience between now and 25 years ago is worlds apart and deeply anaesthetised, with a large dollop of blatant "**** you" cynicism thrown at us for good measure.
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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Slinky Skills View Post
                              Can you blame them, we were losing to a non-league team at half time at home. I'd be ****ing booing if I was there!!
                              We actually werent.

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by alunevans View Post
                                I don't think people boo in order to be effective. They boo because they've worked all week, they'll be working for the rest of the month, they know they've got no money now cos they just spent it on the match, they've got **** all to look forward to for the rest of the month because that was their entire leisure budget down the swanny, and someone just got paid 70k to take the piss out of them.

                                It's not about man management techniques and whats effective. Its an angry reaction to someone treating you like ****e.
                                Yes of course.

                                If sounding off about how you feel is the most important thing to you, then boo away.

                                To me it's just part of the malaise. I mean, if it makes you feel so bad that you do something that is quite possibly counter-productive then maybe it would be better if you'd didn't go to the match. Then, one way or another, you could be less unhappy. And isn't that what matters?
                                .
                                Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



                                May the Lord bless this post.

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