DIC latest - the largely wild speculation thread

[Rashid]

He actually allegedly said he COULD take money out of us if we made a profit etc. etc. so who's telling lies to people now, oh its Rashid, spinning his little deceits in order to impress again. 'Openly looked for a new manager' .....openly?? what like with an ad in the echo (sorry, i meant your fave the NOTW). 'doesnt have a clue about football in general', prove it then. As ive said before, im no hicks apologist, but just trying to look at things reasonably. As for 'just wanting the best for the club', well in years of reading your **** I dont think you want anything but aclaim. **** stirrer.

• Why is he talking about taking money out of Liverpool to impress his American hamburger eaters if he doesn't mean it? Either he is liar or he wants to take money from us, which is worse?
  
• Openly courting a new manager as in admitting he did it.
  
• How can anyone who calls West Ham, Man Ham be taken seriously as a football man?
  
• YOU ARE A HICKS APOLOGISTS. You don't need caveats mate just admit it.

[Vermilion]

How can anyone have the slightest positive thing to say about Hick's & his LFC dealings.

[fred_plasticine]

as far as i remember the story the fan's of his american franchises were afraid he'd take money out of their clubs to finance our stadium etc. he replied that in fact it could be the other way round...

anyway ... the annoying thing about it is really that there's too many people pretending to be financing experts and/or pretend to be completetly in the know as to how the debt is going to repaid, how signings will financed etc etc. we're not talking about buying a house or a car and how it's gonna be financed. this is much more complicated.

i find it at best pathetic how certain wanna-be financial experts on here patronise others who don't share their opinion based on a bit of knowledge and guesswork. i reckon most of us have read what the experts in the papers have to say about it but the only thing that's pretty obvious is that noone really knows anything about the re-financing plans except hicks and gillette and they keep their gobs shut.

there's too much half knowledge spreaded on the net that sitting on the fence until everything's cleared up is about the only sensible thing to do imho. jump to conclusion if you like, i certainly won't.

[jrd7]

as far as i remember the story the fan's of his american franchises were afraid he'd take money out of their clubs to finance our stadium etc. he replied that in fact it could be the other way round...

anyway ... the annoying thing about it is really that there's too many people pretending to be financing experts and/or pretend to be completetly in the know as to how the debt is going to repaid, how signings will financed etc etc. we're not talking about buying a house or a car and how it's gonna be financed. this is much more complicated.

i find it at best pathetic how certain wanna-be financial experts on here patronise others who don't share their opinion based on a bit of knowledge and guesswork. i reckon most of us have read what the experts in the papers have to say about it but the only thing that's pretty obvious is that noone really knows anything about the re-financing plans except hicks and gillette and they keep their gobs shut.

there's too much half knowledge spreaded on the net that sitting on the fence until everything's cleared up is about the only sensible thing to do imho. jump to conclusion if you like, i certainly won't.

...................And you say that knowing what's in the public domain about how THicks runs/ruins his American teams, and his attitude to their fans? You say that having fully read the information about what he did to Corinthians? And you say that knowing what our loan committments are? The figures have been reported in the press, THicks himself announced our new debt re-structure to go from £-40 million to £-300ish?

Financial experts, in the press have highlighted the kind of payments we're now lumbered with, and I'll agree you may have a point about some people on here appearing patronising, but I'll excuse that because it's out of care for the club and frustration at fence-sitters and wait-and-see'rs. This man trades success for his profit, and nothing else.

I've taken the care and interest to read up on this excuse for a man, trying to wrestle full control of our club. I tell you what, let's get this leaching cunt out of our club, and then we can have a discussion about the financial credentials of some empassioned posters?

[Vermilion]

...................And you say that knowing what's in the public domain about how THicks runs/ruins his American teams, and his attitude to their fans? You say that having fully read the information about what he did to Corinthians? And you say that knowing what our loan committments are? The figures have been reported in the press, THicks himself announced our new debt re-structure to go from £-40 million to £-300ish?

Financial experts, in the press have highlighted the kind of payments we're now lumbered with, and I'll agree you may have a point about some people on here appearing patronising, but I'll excuse that because it's out of care for the club and frustration at fence-sitters and wait-and-see'rs. This man trades success for his profit, and nothing else.

I've taken the care and interest to read up on this excuse for a man, trying to wrestle full control of our club. I tell you what, let's get this leaching cunt out of our club, and then we can have a discussion about the financial credentials of some empassioned posters?

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[Sarb]

as far as i remember the story the fan's of his american franchises were afraid he'd take money out of their clubs to finance our stadium etc. he replied that in fact it could be the other way round...

anyway ... the annoying thing about it is really that there's too many people pretending to be financing experts and/or pretend to be completetly in the know as to how the debt is going to repaid, how signings will financed etc etc. we're not talking about buying a house or a car and how it's gonna be financed. this is much more complicated.

i find it at best pathetic how certain wanna-be financial experts on here patronise others who don't share their opinion based on a bit of knowledge and guesswork. i reckon most of us have read what the experts in the papers have to say about it but the only thing that's pretty obvious is that noone really knows anything about the re-financing plans except hicks and gillette and they keep their gobs shut.

there's too much half knowledge spreaded on the net that sitting on the fence until everything's cleared up is about the only sensible thing to do imho. jump to conclusion if you like, i certainly won't.

Mate, where have you been. I'll tell you what, go and have a look at the profit Liverpool make per annum. Then wake up and read anywhere what the loan repayments are for Liverpool on the debt that has been lumbered on the club . Then do a little bit of adding/subtraction and you'll find we won't have the money to pay the interest on the loan

I wonder sometimes what planet people live on. When we're deducted 10 points or somthing for going into administration you'll still be saying no one knows what Hicks and Gillett have done re. financing because they keep their big gobs shut

[El Jefecito]

Mate, where have you been. I'll tell you what, go and have a look at the profit Liverpool make per annum. Then wake up and read anywhere what the loan repayments are for Liverpool on the debt that has been lumbered on the club . Then do a little bit of adding/subtraction and you'll find we won't have the money to pay the interest on the loan

I wonder sometimes what planet people live on. When we're deducted 10 points or somthing for going into administration you'll still be saying no one knows what Hicks and Gillett have done re. financing because they keep their big gobs shut

You are exactly the type of tool Fred is on about. Which bank in the whole world would make a loan which could not be repaid

[jrd7]

You are exactly the type of tool Fred is on about. Which bank in the whole world would make a loan which could not be repaid

But then how much is left over?

[El Jefecito]

But then how much is left over?

Neither I nor anyone else on here has access to the information to allow us to calculate that. That is EXACTLY the point fred was trying to make. Seems like nobody read/understood his post before sticking the boot in

[kopdan]

Really worried about you mate. In the nicest possible way, you're talking a load of old tosh

It's easy to smash a transfer record when you're using the bank's money and not your own.

Rapid movement on a stadium deisgn, but have we actually started building anything? You do remember the bit where we're going to borrow £300m odd to build the stadium?!

fair enough mate. I'll stop talking about it. Wait and see what happens in the coming months.

ta'ra

[1 True Red]

and now I'm a cunt for having a debate with some valid points in my opinion.

You shouldn't call yourself a cunt Dan mate as some cunts are useful eh

No offence like mate

[DannyMan2006]

fair enough mate. I'll stop talking about it. Wait and see what happens in the coming months.ta'ra

Is exactly right.

Though no doubt you and myself, plus a whole host of othes will continue to debate the possibilities.

It's a real ****er, man. I am just keen to know who the long term owners of Liverpool are, so I can get my head round it and then get on with the business of supporting LFC.

I saw someone post that we should just watch the footy and let the deal breakers sort this out, but in this day and age I just can't accept it. Back in the days of teletext and note else, I doubt we'd all be so manic.

I used to look forward to news in the papers regarding my club, now I'm looking forward to posts on the internet about stuff that is so ****e it doesn't even make the papers!

It's a sorry state of affairs indeed, of that we can all be certain off. No one can disagree with that, how can you when you are wasting your time on this thread, reading this ****e?

[pezzzer]

they bought the club on the cheap, financed the lot with expensive loans to sell us a year later to the arabs, making a tidy profit in the process

they played moores and parry and sold them the "were in this for the good of the club, long haul" line and come this summer will be laughing all the way to the bank

cunts.

[Sarb]

You are exactly the type of tool Fred is on about. Which bank in the whole world would make a loan which could not be repaid

The RBS and Wachovia would. We'll see who is right this time next year. May pay the £30m interest or whatever it is, but seen as though Rafa's net spend since the Yanks took over isn't much more than that, how much is going to be invested in the team? Then add on the extra borrowing to build the stadium...free cash is going to be pretty close to peanuts

SpeedyG....if anyone is a tool out of me and you....you don't need to look further than your bathroom mirror to see who it is!

[El Jefecito]

The RBS and Wachovia would. We'll see who is right this time next year. May pay the £30m interest or whatever it is, but seen as though Rafa's net spend since the Yanks took over isn't much more than that, how much is going to be invested in the team? Then add on the extra borrowing to build the stadium...free cash is going to be pretty close to peanuts

SpeedyG....if anyone is a tool out of me and you....you don't need to look further than your bathroom mirror to see who it is!

Great comeback :whatever: