DIC latest - the largely wild speculation thread

[dww]

Perhaps. i can see them giving him a go, but his time would be limited, a la Ranieri under Abramovich. He would probably have to prove himself in the first year or face being moved on.

I would think that is perfectly reasonable and would be the case under almost any new ownership. If he has had two summers of considerable finance and still the team shows no signs of moving to title challengers then IMO he would have to go. I have faith that given stability and another year we would see some strong results though with Rafa in charge and that the youth policy he has instigated would begin to bear some fruit.

[Dhav]

I would think that is perfectly reasonable and would be the case under almost any new ownership. If he has had two summers of considerable finance and still the team shows no signs of moving to title challengers then IMO he would have to go. I have faith that given stability and another year we would see some strong results though with Rafa in charge and that the youth policy he has instigated would begin to bear some fruit.

I completely agree. The only thing that would concern me is the pressure the manager could possibly be working under. After the way this season has gone, we could certainly do without a repeat of the Ranieri scenario where speculation about him losing his job was constantly following him around.

[homer1]

I completely agree. The only thing that would concern me is the pressure the manager could possibly be working under. After the way this season has gone, we could certainly do without a repeat of the Ranieri scenario where speculation about him losing his job was constantly following him around.

I think one way or the other that's going to be there until we start getting the results which makes the speculation worthless mate

[Jazzmaster]

Sorry lads but what has the above discussion to do with the thread title "DIC latest". If you want to bang on about RAFA then fine but OPEN ANOTHER THREAD and leave all us DIC junkies in peace. Thank you very much.:whatever::whatever:

Er wasnt the latest piece on DIC on how they want to replace rafa if they take over?

[El Jefecito]

Yes, I do remember GG saying that, that he had previously conducted due diligence. Firstly, I'm sceptical of that claim. There are lots of reports that Moores was extremely dismissive of Gillett when he initially became interested in the club. That being true, then why would he permit Gillett to carry out due dilgence and incur all those legal expenses on behalf of the club? Secondly If it is true that Gillett examined the books when he first came on the scene, then that was at least several months before they went through a second round of due diligence (if that is indeed what happened). They needed to have had a long hard look at the books, accounts etc to see what would have changed since their first time they did due diligence. A lot of things could have changed in that time. The contracts and obligations the club was subject to are likely to have been at least somewhat if not substantially different to when they first did their due diligence. It would be foolhardy to rely on the results of investigations carried out months before.

Irrespective of that, if like you say they had no idea of the resources needed for the club, that points clearly to them not doing their homework properly, and that 3 days due diligence was insufficient.

This is a red herring. They would not have guaranteed the loans for the initial purchase and working capital if they hadn't done a satisfactory due diligence.

Their sports teams may struggle, but these are real business men who've earnt billions and billions over their career.

[El Jefecito]

Wow, What a horrible statement, "Their sports teams may struggle " & "who've earnt billions over Their career". A BLUNT reminder of what Liverpool Football Club & it's fan's have in store for the forseeable future. Oh my God. .......Over Dramatic ?

What position would we need to be in in 5 years time for their ownership to be considered a success?

Built stadium?
Funded significant transfers?
Club making a profit in excess of past years?
Additional lines of revenue launched?

Anything else?

[Vermilion]

What position would we need to be in in 5 years time for their ownership to be considered a success?

Built stadium?
Funded significant transfers?
Club making a profit in excess of past years?
Additional lines of revenue launched?

Anything else?

Premiership WON, .........Because of very significant funding & Very Sensible ownership, 2 thing's they have so far failed to even look like delivering.

[AFII]

What position would we need to be in in 5 years time for their ownership to be considered a success?

Built stadium?
Funded significant transfers?
Club making a profit in excess of past years?
Additional lines of revenue launched?

Anything else?

Built stadium.
Challenging for the title every season.
Only the debt against the club for the stadium to pay for.
Much better sponsorship deals.
The manager backed in every window.
G&H gone.
Parry gone.

[Ataturk]

been trying to find something about dic on here but it seems to be a Rafa thread, is there some code to find dic news?

yea. pays the 30 quid. then we tell all

[rage]

it is a dic thread. when they take over will they give him the budget to compete and also will they keep rafa?

don't think dic have uttered a single word regarding liverpool publicly for a long long time

[El Jefecito]

Built stadium.
Challenging for the title every season.
Only the debt against the club for the stadium to pay for.
Much better sponsorship deals.
The manager backed in every window.
G&H gone.
Parry gone.

See do we really care who is paying the interest if all the others are true (the last two aside)?

[El Jefecito]

Premiership WON, .........Because of very significant funding & Very Sensible ownership, 2 thing's they have so far failed to even look like delivering.

To be fair that's down to Rafa.

Significant funding isn't that the same as backing the manager in the transfer market?

[AFII]

See do we really care who is paying the interest if all the others are true (the last two aside)?

G&H&P won't be able to....

Built stadium.
Challenging for the title every season.
Only the debt against the club for the stadium to pay for.
Much better sponsorship deals.
The manager backed in every window.

so they need to go.

[El Jefecito]

G&H&P won't be able to....

1/ Built stadium.
2/ Challenging for the title every season.
3/ Only the debt against the club for the stadium to pay for.
4/ Much better sponsorship deals.
5/ The manager backed in every window.

so they need to go.

I'm not as sure as you are. Lets continue to measure them against your criteria.

Would you say signing El Jefecito and Skrtel is evidence of 5/?

[Vermilion]

See do we really care who is paying the interest if all the others are true (the last two aside)?

IT's easy to say does it matter whos paying if most of the those targets are fullfilled, But it comes down to the confidence you or me have in those people to deliver.

I REALLY dont have the confidence in H&G, I have More, but not total Confidence in DIC, actually it's a whole load more confidence in DIC if i'm honest. I STILL can't believe how we ended up like this, how the **** H&G ended up with the club & not DIC. ****in Baffling.