DIC latest - the largely wild speculation thread

[Jayesh87]

Is that fact or assumption, would you know, have you got a Phd

I do have a prity huge dick

If you believe Tony Barrett....Who has said it many times in The Echo.

[m100900]

I do have a prity huge dick

If you believe Tony Barrett....Who has said it many times in The Echo.

I've yet to see a single quote from Barrett regarding the size of your dick.

The whole 'huge' thing is total speculation.

[Jayesh87]

I've yet to see a single quote from Barrett regarding the size of your dick.

The whole 'huge' thing is total speculation.

very good mate

[pezzzer]

Divvy.....increasing the value is only worth while if they intend to flip the club around in less than 10 years. If that be the case then they would keep spending to a minimum to increase profit.

Otherwise its about annual income and hence keeping costs low.

There will be no huge spendings!

ok i'll make it nice and easy for you
how many extra shirts do you think we'd sell if we won the league? now times that by 1000 for the resultant sales in asia as our (not yours) club claws its support back fro the mancs/barca,real etc.

the glaziers have spent HUGE amounts investing in united's squad to keep them winning/keep the merchandise selling and it works, and can you tell me that manure arent worth more now than when the glaziers took over, of course they are

heres the maths fella

huge club+huge spending=huge success/huge proffit

now repeat that back to me so i know you understand

[redheart]

The problem with that is....the Glazers already had a stadium in place, a huge internation fan base (much biggers than ours could be), and cheap ticket prices which they could ratchet up.

As for us, DIC need to buy the club, pay for the new stadium, have a budget to buy big players and make an annual profit!

Sorry the maths dont add up

[ronniedrew]

The problem with that is....the Glazers already had a stadium in place, a huge internation fan base (much biggers than ours could be), and cheap ticket prices which they could ratchet up.

As for us, DIC need to buy the club, pay for the new stadium, have a budget to buy big players and make an annual profit!

Sorry the maths dont add up

as with any business, where big investment is necessary, you wont make a profit for a certain period of time.

you invest in the short term so profit is greater in the long term. simple.

maths = add up

[pezzzer]

The problem with that is....the Glazers already had a stadium in place, a huge internation fan base (much biggers than ours could be), and cheap ticket prices which they could ratchet up.

As for us, DIC need to buy the club, pay for the new stadium, have a budget to buy big players and make an annual profit!

Sorry the maths dont add up

its called speculate to accumilate. how on earth do you think takeovers work? they did a similar thing with NewMarket (the race ground they own)

you just havent got a clue have you fella

please anwer

are you a liverpool fan
is your PhD in knitting

[Lecter]

The situation hasn't changed from 6 weeks ago lads, the bottom line is nothing will be decided until the Sheikh matches Hick's asking price. Gillett has decided to sell but who he sells to depends on whether the Sheikh is willing to outbid Hicks for the shares. Hicks holds all the cards basically.

Lets just consider this scenario

Gillett wants out BUT he wants £250 million for his shares which DIC are prepared to pay

Hicks has first option but cant afford to match that price (which he has to in order to exercise his first option)

Hicks presents Gillett with a number of proposals, selling 25% to a third party, or them both selling shares to give a third party 33%. However neither of these options are appealling to Gillett because the price is lower than DIC's and he wants out totally he certainly doesnt want any part in a business which Hicks has the absolute majority stake its also doubtful whether Gillett has the finances needed to continue to own 50% of the club

So really Gillett sees DIC as the only option unless Hicks can raise £250 million which is unlikely

However lets just say its further complicated by DIC not wanting a 50% stake but wanting the club lock stock and barrell however Hicks valuation is higher than Gilletts its at £400 million which DIC wont meet

Does Hicks hold all the cards in the above scenario??

I'm not convinced and if what I heard above is true its probably why things are dragging on and on

[NICKZS]

Lets just consider this scenario

Gillett wants out BUT he wants £250 million for his shares which DIC are prepared to pay

Hicks has first option but cant afford to match that price (which he has to in order to exercise his first option)

Hicks presents Gillett with a number of proposals, selling 25% to a third party, or them both selling shares to give a third party 33%. However neither of these options are appealling to Gillett because the price is lower than DIC's and he wants out totally he certainly doesnt want any part in a business which Hicks has the absolute majority stake its also doubtful whether Gillett has the finances needed to continue to own 50% of the club

So really Gillett sees DIC as the only option unless Hicks can raise £250 million which is unlikely

However lets just say its further complicated by DIC not wanting a 50% stake but wanting the club lock stock and barrell however Hicks valuation is higher than Gilletts its at £400 million which DIC wont meet

Does Hicks hold all the cards in the above scenario??

I'm not convinced and if what I heard above is true its probably why things are dragging on and on

[Sarb]

Lets just consider this scenario

Gillett wants out BUT he wants £250 million for his shares which DIC are prepared to pay

Hicks has first option but cant afford to match that price (which he has to in order to exercise his first option)

Hicks presents Gillett with a number of proposals, selling 25% to a third party, or them both selling shares to give a third party 33%. However neither of these options are appealling to Gillett because the price is lower than DIC's and he wants out totally he certainly doesnt want any part in a business which Hicks has the absolute majority stake its also doubtful whether Gillett has the finances needed to continue to own 50% of the club

So really Gillett sees DIC as the only option unless Hicks can raise £250 million which is unlikely

However lets just say its further complicated by DIC not wanting a 50% stake but wanting the club lock stock and barrell however Hicks valuation is higher than Gilletts its at £400 million which DIC wont meet

Does Hicks hold all the cards in the above scenario??

I'm not convinced and if what I heard above is true its probably why things are dragging on and on

I've had a long day and can't quite get my head round that. Do you think the deal will happen and DIC are holding the cards?

[peekay]

I've had a long day and can't quite get my head round that. Do you think the deal will happen and DIC are holding the cards?

Whatever happens Hicks holds the cards as long as he has ownership of the club..Part of the reason Hicks may be trying to appease the fans now : apparently supporting Rafa, son going to Sandon would be trying to bluff to DIC that fans are alright with him, and he really does not have any urgent need to sell.

[pezzzer]

it all boils down to money. if dic offer enough of it h and g will sell, if they dont they wont.

[Rashid]

Lets just consider this scenario

Gillett wants out BUT he wants £250 million for his shares which DIC are prepared to pay

Hicks has first option but cant afford to match that price (which he has to in order to exercise his first option)

Hicks presents Gillett with a number of proposals, selling 25% to a third party, or them both selling shares to give a third party 33%. However neither of these options are appealling to Gillett because the price is lower than DIC's and he wants out totally he certainly doesnt want any part in a business which Hicks has the absolute majority stake its also doubtful whether Gillett has the finances needed to continue to own 50% of the club

So really Gillett sees DIC as the only option unless Hicks can raise £250 million which is unlikely

However lets just say its further complicated by DIC not wanting a 50% stake but wanting the club lock stock and barrell however Hicks valuation is higher than Gilletts its at £400 million which DIC wont meet

Does Hicks hold all the cards in the above scenario??

I'm not convinced and if what I heard above is true its probably why things are dragging on and on

That's a great post mate.

It is quite plausible that DIC want the whole club and Hicks no longer wants to sell and is looking for investors himself to buy out Gillett. But from what I heard originally though Hicks wants to sell as much as Gillett. It's going on and on now... I still think though that Hicks holds a lot of the cards as even if DIC wanted to pay him his asking price, they would have to pay Gillett the same!

[Kronenburg1892]

I've had a long day and can't quite get my head round that. Do you think the deal will happen and DIC are holding the cards?

According to Lecter, Hicks wants Gillete to sell for less than DIC are offering.

It's interesting.

And no, Hicks does not seem to hold all the cards in this scenario.

[Tatterdemalion]

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/liverpool/article3427890.ece

Hicks junior heckled in the Sandon.

You have to say he must be a complete moron going in there.

Does anyone know the fan who he spoke to?