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    In defence of Rafael BenÍtez: statistics point out why he should stay

    In defence of Rafael BenÍtez: statistics point out why he should stay
    Daniel Finkelstein, The Times

    Long live the Rafa-lution

    I love them (the Beatles came from Liverpool), I love them not (so did Militant). I love them (they are admirably sporting and passionate), I love them not (the fans are irritatingly certain that they power their team). I love them (what a club, what a history), I love them not (when I go to watch them play my side, I usually feel that I should take a pillow).

    I am, in other words, ambivalent about Liverpool. But about Rafael BenÍtez? About Rafa, I am off the fence. Dr Henry Stott and Dr Ian Graham got up from their sofas after the FA Cup fiasco against Barnsley and started crunching the numbers. Somehow they knew that it would be necessary. And the next day, the papers were, indeed, duly full of stories about the future of Liverpool’s manager.

    It is worth, therefore, starting with this. There was a 91 per cent chance of Liverpool defeating Barnsley at home. That they lost did not alter their 50 per cent chance of beating Inter Milan in the Champions League on Tuesday, a game they proceeded to win. You simply cannot make judgments based on one result, or even a small clutch of results. You have to take a longer view.

    What happens when you do? Using a weighted measure of goals and shots on goal (the weighting is the one we use to beat the bookies season after season), we can compare Liverpool’s attacking and defensive strength with the best in the Barclays Premier League. This allows us to see whether they are getting closer or farther away from the top side and whether there has been a dip this season.

    The results are clear. In May 2005, Liverpool’s attack was 71 per cent as strong as Manchester United, now it is 82 per cent. And over the same period their defence has improved from 79 per cent of Chelsea to 89 per cent. This season? Defence shot up, then fell back, but is still higher than it was at the beginning (83 per cent of Chelsea). Attack has remained pretty constant.

    The graphic is another way of looking at things. Liverpool’s ranking has been remarkably constant over three seasons. So what, if anything, is going wrong this season? (And they have gone wrong. The chance of a top-four finish is now only 58 per cent). Three things come out of the data. The first is that Liverpool are scoring a smaller proportion of their shots on target than they were. The second is that they are letting in a larger proportion. And the final point is that they are accumulating disappointingly few points for the goals they do score.

    Here’s a remarkable set of statistics. This season Liverpool have scored two more goals than Chelsea and conceded the same number. Yet Chelsea have 11 more points.

    If all this stuff sounds sort of familiar to you, that’s because it is broadly what happened to Arsenal last season. They had some bad luck and this year they are having good luck. That’s just the way it goes.

    There are two more points worth touching on briefly. It may be that in the mix of bad luck, José Manuel Reina has added some pretty poor play. He is having a very bad season, whereas last year he was one of Liverpool’s best players. This year the star is Steven Gerrard - a player the Fink Tank hasn’t always raved about.

    One thing I do want you to forget about is rotation. Our new rotation measure (of which more soon) does not show BenÍtez as the biggest rotator.

    Rafa must stay.

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/spo...cle3420138.ece

    #2
    Originally posted by HotSwine View Post
    In defence of Rafael BenÍtez: statistics point out why he should stay
    Daniel Finkelstein, The Times

    Long live the Rafa-lution

    I love them (the Beatles came from Liverpool), I love them not (so did Militant). I love them (they are admirably sporting and passionate), I love them not (the fans are irritatingly certain that they power their team). I love them (what a club, what a history), I love them not (when I go to watch them play my side, I usually feel that I should take a pillow).

    I am, in other words, ambivalent about Liverpool. But about Rafael BenÍtez? About Rafa, I am off the fence. Dr Henry Stott and Dr Ian Graham got up from their sofas after the FA Cup fiasco against Barnsley and started crunching the numbers. Somehow they knew that it would be necessary. And the next day, the papers were, indeed, duly full of stories about the future of Liverpool’s manager.

    It is worth, therefore, starting with this. There was a 91 per cent chance of Liverpool defeating Barnsley at home. That they lost did not alter their 50 per cent chance of beating Inter Milan in the Champions League on Tuesday, a game they proceeded to win. You simply cannot make judgments based on one result, or even a small clutch of results. You have to take a longer view.

    What happens when you do? Using a weighted measure of goals and shots on goal (the weighting is the one we use to beat the bookies season after season), we can compare Liverpool’s attacking and defensive strength with the best in the Barclays Premier League. This allows us to see whether they are getting closer or farther away from the top side and whether there has been a dip this season.

    The results are clear. In May 2005, Liverpool’s attack was 71 per cent as strong as Manchester United, now it is 82 per cent. And over the same period their defence has improved from 79 per cent of Chelsea to 89 per cent. This season? Defence shot up, then fell back, but is still higher than it was at the beginning (83 per cent of Chelsea). Attack has remained pretty constant.

    The graphic is another way of looking at things. Liverpool’s ranking has been remarkably constant over three seasons. So what, if anything, is going wrong this season? (And they have gone wrong. The chance of a top-four finish is now only 58 per cent). Three things come out of the data. The first is that Liverpool are scoring a smaller proportion of their shots on target than they were. The second is that they are letting in a larger proportion. And the final point is that they are accumulating disappointingly few points for the goals they do score.

    Here’s a remarkable set of statistics. This season Liverpool have scored two more goals than Chelsea and conceded the same number. Yet Chelsea have 11 more points.

    If all this stuff sounds sort of familiar to you, that’s because it is broadly what happened to Arsenal last season. They had some bad luck and this year they are having good luck. That’s just the way it goes.

    There are two more points worth touching on briefly. It may be that in the mix of bad luck, José Manuel Reina has added some pretty poor play. He is having a very bad season, whereas last year he was one of Liverpool’s best players. This year the star is Steven Gerrard - a player the Fink Tank hasn’t always raved about.

    One thing I do want you to forget about is rotation. Our new rotation measure (of which more soon) does not show BenÍtez as the biggest rotator.

    Rafa must stay.

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/spo...cle3420138.ece

    bad season??? **** off
    "Sky and Setanta have the right to choose their games and it will be the same for everyone. So Mr Ferguson will not be complaining about fixtures and a campaign against United.

    "Or there is another option. That Mr Ferguson organises the fixtures in his office and sends it to us and everyone will know and cannot complain. That is simple."

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      #3
      More spiel

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        #4
        As Homer once said" you can use statistics to prove anything,40% of people know that!"

        I'm still behind Rafa though,Our league goals scored/conceded record compared to Chelsea shows we're not that far off.

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          #5
          Reina is one of our 3 best players IMO. To suggest he's had a poor season is ridiculous, he's made few if any errors and adds so much to our attacking play as well as commanding his area better than almost any keeper in the premiership.

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            #6
            The only stat I need is the league table.

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              #7
              Originally posted by terrymac View Post
              The only stat I need is the league table.
              indeed

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                #8
                Originally posted by terrymac View Post
                The only stat I need is the league table.
                The only stat I need are trophies
                White liquid in a bottle = Milk

                Purslow = C*nt

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                  #9
                  to be honest, Reina is probably one of the best players we have!

                  The worst i've seen him play was at the beginning of last season where nothing was going for him..

                  but to say hes been poor this season, when the reality of it is that some of the goals he has conceaded have been 5 penalties, and a few deflected goals...

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                    #10
                    Great article, we have been very good in several games this year and gone on to draw.

                    Goes to show that just a bit of bad luck can make a huge difference.
                    Quote of the year :

                    "With monkey me, dogface dishwasher bitch and chimp the ****ing champ you. We are turning into a raving party here arent we"

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Dhavlos View Post
                      The only stat I need are trophies
                      Even if it means we finish 4th or 5th, 30 odd points behind a team who have spent **** all compared to us?

                      Good to see our standards are not slipping anyway.

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                        #12
                        we have to admit that our overall squad quality is not as good as united, arsenal or chelsea.

                        united can take off ronaldo and bring on nani. We take off pennant and replace him with kewell (the half baked version). Its not the same and therefore it can be argued that we dont have enough strength in depth.

                        We have 4 or 5 world class players with the rest just decent premiership footballers. That's not enough to win the premiership so maybe benitez thinks its better to settle for the CL instead where on the night our few world class players can make the difference.

                        But over 38 games in a season its always quality that shines through. At this moment we just dont have enough of it.
                        [B]Sir Isaac Newton knew the universal law of karma - any action has its equal and opposite reaction.[B]

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by el matador View Post
                          we have to admit that our overall squad quality is not as good as united, arsenal or chelsea.
                          That's nonsense, I'm afraid, and just another excuse. We finished ahead of Arsenal twice in three seasons.

                          Our core group of players is more than capable of putting in a credible title challenge.

                          Our problems are down to attitude and mentality, and the managers restrictive, cautious methods.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by terrymac View Post
                            That's nonsense, I'm afraid, and just another excuse. We finished ahead of Arsenal twice in three seasons.

                            Our core group of players is more than capable of putting in a credible title challenge.

                            Our problems are down to attitude and mentality, and the managers restrictive, cautious methods.
                            We only have 5 world class players with the rest as space fillers. You cannot expect to win the premiership with only 5 world class players when the likes of chelsea and the rest have 8 or 9 in their teams.

                            Benitez knows this and im sure this is why he came out recently and said that our squad wasnt as strong as the other top 3.
                            [B]Sir Isaac Newton knew the universal law of karma - any action has its equal and opposite reaction.[B]

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                              #15
                              Not sure where you're getting that Chelsea have so many great players. I'd take 2 or 3, tops. But they're a good, functioning team.

                              The term "world class" should be banned anyway. It means nothing.

                              Arsenal top the league, 8 points ahead of Chelsea and all their "world class" players, end of story.

                              Anyone can buy the league, but that's not we're about. It's also about coaching and spotting cheaper talent and getting the best out of them.

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