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    Ryan Babel can become a Dutch master in timeMar 1 2008




    by Ian Doyle, Liverpool Daily Post


    FOLLOWING in the footsteps of Dennis Bergkamp, Robin van Persie and Arjen Robben would have been uppermost in the mind of Ryan Babel on his arrival at Liverpool last summer.

    But the Holland international would not have wanted to stick so faithfully to the career path of his three compatriots.

    Bergkamp, van Persie and Robben all had to overcome initial teething problems when acclimatising to the Premier League before their undoubted talents could shine through.

    It’s a situation of which Babel is continually reminded by Liverpool manager Rafael Benitez as the winger negotiates his own tricky first season in English football.

    Expectations were high when Babel, who was the star for European Under-21 Championship winners Holland last summer, became the then third most expensive player in the club’s history when he signed for £11.5million from Ajax in July.


    The 21-year-old, however, has found it a struggle to come to terms with the physical demands in England can't say I agree with that personally and has yet to complete the full 90 minutes of a league game.


    Indeed, Babel’s main impact this season has been as a substitute, with five of his seven goals coming from the bench.


    One of those came in the 4-0 home win against Bolton Wanderers in December, with the forward hopeful of a fifth successive start – his best sequence of the season – when Liverpool visit the Reebok Stadium for the return game tomorrow afternoon.


    Benitez admits it is far too soon to judge Babel on the evidence of his debut campaign.


    “When I talk with Ryan, I always mention the likes of van Persie, Bergkamp and Robben, players that came from Holland, about how much time they needed to be successful here, maybe one or two years,” says the Anfield manager.


    He was playing at Ajax in a specific role and now he is in a top side in England and everything is different for him. I’m really pleased with is commitment. He is practising everything, learning and trying to improve. I think he will be a very good player for us.


    “It’s too soon to judge him. It’s the same with Lucas Leiva. He’s another young player and will need time. We have a reserve team with young players of quality, because we want to give them time.”


    Benitez adds: “Sometimes, with some players they are so good they can’t be kept in the reserves and must go straight to the first team. We know that they will need time, but I’m really pleased with Ryan.


    “I think Ryan will be really good. He has all the qualities, he has pace and ability. He’ll need to play some games in a row and show good things, that will give him more confidence.


    “When you have a young player with quality, if you don’t get them into the club as soon as possible you know they’ll sign for another top side.


    “You must bring them here and then give them time. We signed Daniel Agger as a young player and after his first six months people were saying they weren’t sure about him, then a year later he was one of the best players in our team.”


    Babel was employed as a striker during his country’s successful under-21 run last summer, and was on the left side of a three-pronged Ajax attack before arriving at Anfield.


    The Dutchman has been used primarily as an orthodox left winger by Benitez, but the Liverpool manager reckons Babel will ultimately forge his reputation further up the field. Of that I am sure


    “When Ryan was with the Dutch under-21s, he was playing as a striker,” he says. “But with Ajax he was playing a 4-3-3 on the left side. He is learning other positions, and here he is learning about 4-4-2 as that is different.


    “We are always working with him and watching videos, and for him as a player it is a good experience for him.


    “We know he likes to play as a second striker and is an option, but if he can learn this position it will be good for him and the future.


    “Maybe in the future Ryan can be a striker for us, but now we need to use his pace and ability in wide areas.” So that when we but a quality left sided player Babel can be used more as a striker. I think that he and Torres would scare the s..t out of any defense

    Liverpool have won only once at the Reebok – a 3-2 triumph in September 2002 – and never during Benitez’s tenure.


    Liverpool’s game in hand will be played on Wednesday at home to West Ham United, with Newcastle United visiting three days later before the Champions League trip to Italy to face Inter Milan next Tuesday.


    And Benitez admits: “We have four games in 10 days, four really important games, so we have to keep progressing.


    “We have to start showing we can win games in a row and, looking at the fixtures we have and our quality, I think we can do that. We have experience in doing so and we will have to. Everton and Aston Villa are both fighting really hard for fourth.”


    A Fernando Torres hat-trick earned Liverpool a 3-2 win against Middlesbrough last week, only their second Premier League triumph since Boxing Day.


    And strike partner Dirk Kuyt admits: “It was very important to get the win against Middlesbrough because we still want to do something in the league and we definitely want to play in the Champions League next season.


    “I was happy with the two wins we had against Inter Milan and Middlesbrough and now we have to look to get another one on Sunday against Bolton.


    “We are in the middle of a run of four league games before we play Inter again and we have to try and do everything we can to make the most of those games and get ourselves into fourth position.”
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    #2
    Yes. We have Bolton today, West Ham Wednesday night, Newcastle on Saturday, then Inter the following Wednesday... Tough schedule.

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      #3
      Originally posted by Paddy View Post
      Yes. We have Bolton today, West Ham Wednesday night, Newcastle on Saturday, then Inter the following Wednesday... Tough schedule.

      First three I expect us to win and I'll settle for a draw in Milan. Setanta Ireland are showing the Newcastle game next Saturday.
      That rug really tied the room together.

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        #4
        Great stuff. Doubt the game is on Wednesday night anywhere?

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          #5
          Originally posted by Paddy View Post
          Great stuff. Doubt the game is on Wednesday night anywhere?
          Not on any regular channels. My local will probably pick it up from some foreign channel.
          That rug really tied the room together.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Paddy View Post
            Yes. We have Bolton today, West Ham Wednesday night, Newcastle on Saturday, then Inter the following Wednesday... Tough schedule.
            Inter game is on the tuesday patrick but aye tough schedule for sure(as our boy Rafa would say).
            Will the lads be ready? I hope so. The next few weeks will see our main players come good at long last.
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              #7
              We need maximum points in those games to keep pressure on Everton, Villa and Man City because after Reading on the 15th March we have ManUre away, Everton at home and Arsenal away. We can't afford to slip up over the next few league games.
              That rug really tied the room together.

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                #8
                Originally posted by SB View Post

                The 21-year-old, however, has found it a struggle to come to terms with the physical demands in England can't say I agree with that personally
                Babel himself had said this.

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                  #9
                  fair comment to compare him to Van Persie, he came in as a winger, but ou could see the talent and given time, he has moved upfront and started harnessing it. I have great hopes for Babel in the future.


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                    #10
                    I have my doubts about Babel because he seems to lack the game intelligence that almost all the great players have but time will tell and it's his first season in the PL.
                    Just believe and you never know what will happen.

                    According to Benitez it's important not simply to go out to win but to go out prepared to win, which means players have to put in the same level of work on a daily basis. Anything else is unacceptable.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by AFII View Post
                      I have my doubts about Babel because he seems to lack the game intelligence that almost all the great players have but time will tell and it's his first season in the PL.
                      do you think game inteligence is something you learn with experience though??
                      "Sky and Setanta have the right to choose their games and it will be the same for everyone. So Mr Ferguson will not be complaining about fixtures and a campaign against United.

                      "Or there is another option. That Mr Ferguson organises the fixtures in his office and sends it to us and everyone will know and cannot complain. That is simple."

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by bobbyfallon View Post
                        do you think game inteligence is something you learn with experience though??
                        Not that much. It may get a little bit better but you can't get from average to very good game intelligence for example.
                        Just believe and you never know what will happen.

                        According to Benitez it's important not simply to go out to win but to go out prepared to win, which means players have to put in the same level of work on a daily basis. Anything else is unacceptable.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by AFII View Post
                          Not that much. It may get a little bit better but you can't get from average to very good game intelligence for example.
                          many players game inteligence or positional inteligence comes from experience or games played imo.

                          babel has speed on his side so maybe that will stand better for him??

                          put him up front with torres - he knows how to put it in the back of the net, all he needs to do is have the inteligence to stay onside, breeze past 99% of cb's and finish.

                          that would do for me
                          "Sky and Setanta have the right to choose their games and it will be the same for everyone. So Mr Ferguson will not be complaining about fixtures and a campaign against United.

                          "Or there is another option. That Mr Ferguson organises the fixtures in his office and sends it to us and everyone will know and cannot complain. That is simple."

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                            #14
                            Babel was outstanding today and I hope he takes confidence from his performance.

                            It is a cert that if he played for United, Arsenal or Chelsea then we'd be looking on enviously. The boy is a potential match-winner.

                            As an aside, I'd say Penannt and Kewell will almost certainly be shipped out in the summer.
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                              #15
                              I also think Rafa has got it spot on about his position, he looks more of a threat playing wide left and cutting in. I don't think he has the game intelligence YET to play up top which he demonstrated towards the end of game. In fairness to him he only played a few mins there, he also looked knackered which explains why Rafa hardly let's him play the full 90 mins. Ace performance tho! Also on Setanta they said about him playing wide right to put in crosses for Crouch, are they kidding? Have they seen Babel's crossing? Setanta is an f'in joke!

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