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I understand why you're angry, and I share that anger. My comments relate only to the idea of boycotting the club. I pay money to all sorts of ****s in the course of everyday life. A boycott isn't oging to be helpful imo. Hicks is a bit ****, and it could put our future at risk. Withholding our support isn't going to mitigate that at all.Originally posted by el matador View Posti think you need to sit down and think about what he will do to our club. There's no chance of the stadium being built whatsoever because he doesnt have the money or the backing to do it. People say the stadium will be self funding and that is correct but what about the other £350m that the club currently owe.
who is going to pay that ? Do you think the banks are going to lend him even more money so that the overall debt reaches £600 - £700m ? with increased turnover and gross profit estimates with the new stadium reach £35-40m.
Our interest payments alone will be higher than our projected profit. Its not sustainable in the long term.
You're a sensible guy so surely you can see that he will **** us over and leave us as a shell of the club that we currently know. That's why I'm angry.
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End of the day, people are going to give the money and go to the games. It might as well be people who actually give a **** about the club and the team rather than those that just want a day out.
There's no point martyring ourselves in the hopes that it will make a difference. It won't. All it will do is open up Anfield to people who have no clue about the culture of the place.
The fans are what sets us apart. Or, at least, they were.
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Are you really Tom Hicks? Its this type of attitude that will see the ******* take full control of the club. Of course the fans can make a difference. If we agree to cancel e-seaons tickets (which are pretty ****e anyway, the only reason I subscribe is to support the club) and not buy this year's new jersey, we will put a big dent in his pocket.Originally posted by Ballykissdevil View PostEnd of the day, people are going to give the money and go to the games. It might as well be people who actually give a **** about the club and the team rather than those that just want a day out.
There's no point martyring ourselves in the hopes that it will make a difference. It won't. All it will do is open up Anfield to people who have no clue about the culture of the place.
The fans are what sets us apart. Or, at least, they were."I'm sorry you'll have to speak up I'm wearing a towel".
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Of course there is a point in doing it, you would actually show you care for the future of the club. With that kind of despondent attitude that will never change anything!Originally posted by Ballykissdevil View PostEnd of the day, people are going to give the money and go to the games. It might as well be people who actually give a **** about the club and the team rather than those that just want a day out.
There's no point martyring ourselves in the hopes that it will make a difference. It won't. All it will do is open up Anfield to people who have no clue about the culture of the place.
The fans are what sets us apart. Or, at least, they were.
Of course we as fans should not put up with his kind. If it hurts his pockets, he will come around - as stated he is a business man. LFC fans are proberly the most well organized there is, and as such could put an effective protest / boycut in place!!
The problem is that the changing atmosphere because of protests and less money might hurt us in the short term - however it is way f**king better than being the next Leeds or Corinthians for that matter. The later the club Hicks ruin while being in charge to long and filled with false promises.
Nobody ever won anything by just handing themselves over. Not saying it will make a difference, but doing nothing will for certainly change nothing!!
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Well if we don't qualify for CL next seasson, we are well and truly fcuked, and we never applied for a position the UEFA Cup for next season either...So lets hope our confidence is not lacking and our football comes together at long last..Originally posted by el matador View PostIf we dont qualify for the champions league this season - expect no significant transfers in the summer and even some players being sold to make up for the £10-£15m deficit we will experience as revenue loss from being in the UEFA cup.
(the blue**** did apply, as an insurance policy..LOL)
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you're thinking of the inter toto cup you don't apply for the uefa cup, you automtically qualify.Originally posted by MosRay View PostWell if we don't qualify for CL next seasson, we are well and truly fcuked, and we never applied for a position the UEFA Cup for next season either...So lets hope our confidence is not lacking and our football comes together at long last..
(the blue**** did apply, as an insurance policy..LOL)Always borrow money from a pessimist. He won’t expect it back. Oscar Wilde
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I think you might be confusing the UEFA cup with the Inter-toto cup, which the later is a qual tournament for the UEFA-cup. I don't have any knowledge of teams having to apply to get in to the UEFA cup and the CL...Originally posted by MosRay View PostWell if we don't qualify for CL next seasson, we are well and truly fcuked, and we never applied for a position the UEFA Cup for next season either...So lets hope our confidence is not lacking and our football comes together at long last..
(the blue**** did apply, as an insurance policy..LOL)
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For every one person that cancels a season ticket or an eseason ticket, or who does not buy a shirt, there are ten out of towners who come to anfield, buy ten shirts for their family and gives him even more money.Originally posted by redwien View PostAre you really Tom Hicks? Its this type of attitude that will see the ******* take full control of the club. Of course the fans can make a difference. If we agree to cancel e-seaons tickets (which are pretty ****e anyway, the only reason I subscribe is to support the club) and not buy this year's new jersey, we will put a big dent in his pocket.
It does nothing.
And this whole ****ing "Are you Tom Hicks" is pathetic.
Grow up.
I don't support the man. I just wonder what difference its going to make to "his pocket" when there are people lining up for tickets.
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Originally posted by Ballykissdevil View PostFor every one person that cancels a season ticket or an eseason ticket, or who does not buy a shirt, there are ten out of towners who come to anfield, buy ten shirts for their family and gives him even more money.
It does nothing.
And this whole ****ing "Are you Tom Hicks" is pathetic.
Grow up.
I don't support the man. I just wonder what difference its going to make to "his pocket" when there are people lining up for tickets.
Whats "out of towners" got to do with it?
Oh i get it,you have to be from Liverpool to understand whats going on.No-one in liverpool is lining up to buy shirts and tickets!
Ironic your advising others to grow up.-----------------------------------------------
'Football is a simple game based on the giving and taking of passes, of controlling the ball and of making yourself available to receive a pass. It is terribly simple.'
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He's right, you're wrong. imho, of course.Originally posted by kop-al-74 View PostWhats "out of towners" got to do with it?
Oh i get it,you have to be from Liverpool to understand whats going on.No-one in liverpool is lining up to buy shirts and tickets!
Ironic your advising others to grow up.Trey Nyoni: countdown to stardom-2 years1year0.5 years
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Originally posted by Operation View PostHe's right, you're wrong. imho, of course.
Care to explain?-----------------------------------------------
'Football is a simple game based on the giving and taking of passes, of controlling the ball and of making yourself available to receive a pass. It is terribly simple.'
Bill Shankly.
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Spot on. Some of the drama queens on here really make me laugh when they talk about boycotting "their" club. Business is business and the average football fan is out his depth trying to understand what goes on in the real world regarding financing. No offence to anyone, but stick to what you know.Originally posted by Operation View PostPaying money to greedy business men - ****ing wow. Everyone does it with almost every penny they spend.
Some people's hatred of Hicks is bording on the psychotic.
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It would hurt the club more thatn it would hurt him so think again.Originally posted by redwien View PostAre you really Tom Hicks? Its this type of attitude that will see the ******* take full control of the club. Of course the fans can make a difference. If we agree to cancel e-seaons tickets (which are pretty ****e anyway, the only reason I subscribe is to support the club) and not buy this year's new jersey, we will put a big dent in his pocket.
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