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    #46
    Originally posted by red g View Post
    I am pretty sure probably only chelsea, villa and city dont though?!!
    Yep, very few chairmen actually put their own hand in their pockets. I think the only time Moores did was when we bought Kuyt.

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      #47
      Originally posted by Ritchi3 View Post
      Yep, very few chairmen actually put their own hand in their pockets. I think the only time Moores did was when we bought Kuyt.
      Didn't he pay for the centenary stand as well?
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        #48
        Originally posted by alunevans View Post
        because its borrowed against the club YOU have actually bought torres and mascherano etc not g and t

        the club has no stability financially at all. it is simply lurching from refinance to refinance. and has millions of debt round its neck to boot.

        being honest i think we can count the number of good decisions that Mr Moores made in his time as chairman on the hand of a man who has just lost all his fingers in a thresher accident.
        Mate who cares how it is financed, we have the players. And don't be so disingenous, Sky and world wide broadcasters have paid a darn sight more for those players than we have.

        That aside if Hicks is spending OUR money on Torres et al, seems like a pretty good investment does it not. What would you rather have him spend our money on? Plastic flags?
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          #49
          Originally posted by SpeedyG View Post
          Didn't he pay for the centenary stand as well?
          Sorry, that's true. The general point is that it's not the norm for owners to fund transfers.

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            #50
            Originally posted by Ritchi3 View Post
            Sorry, that's true. The general point is that it's not the norm for owners to fund transfers.
            didnt know that
            "Sky and Setanta have the right to choose their games and it will be the same for everyone. So Mr Ferguson will not be complaining about fixtures and a campaign against United.

            "Or there is another option. That Mr Ferguson organises the fixtures in his office and sends it to us and everyone will know and cannot complain. That is simple."

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              #51
              Originally posted by SpeedyG View Post
              Mate who cares how it is financed, we have the players. And don't be so disingenous, Sky and world wide broadcasters have paid a darn sight more for those players than we have.

              That aside if Hicks is spending OUR money on Torres et al, seems like a pretty good investment does it not. What would you rather have him spend our money on? Plastic flags?
              What a great financial model.
              3rd place. Worst champions ever.

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                #52
                Originally posted by PC Plod View Post
                What a great financial model.
                Elaborate, you don't equity investing is a valid financial model?
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                  #53
                  Originally posted by Ritchi3 View Post
                  Sorry, that's true. The general point is that it's not the norm for owners to fund transfers.
                  My point was unless you have a class owner like Moores.
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                    #54
                    Originally posted by SpeedyG View Post
                    Elaborate, you don't equity investing is a valid financial model?

                    It was your "who cares how it's financed" comment I was referring to.
                    3rd place. Worst champions ever.

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                      #55
                      Originally posted by Parm View Post
                      their silence is deafining.
                      My god I think I have come to hate that expression more than anything now!!

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                        #56
                        Originally posted by PC Plod View Post
                        It was your "who cares how it's financed" comment I was referring to.
                        Hasn't done united any harm has it! It is a brave new world we're operating in. Why not use it to our advantage? Or would you rather stand still and hope another Abramovic turns up?
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                          #57
                          Scum already have the stadium & commercial marketing revenue in place tho, it is entirely different.

                          As I've said eleswhere, it's the loans against the club to purchase the club that are my principle objection financially speaking. This sits ont top of that remember & we havent even begin to borrow for the stadium (which I dont object to btw).
                          3rd place. Worst champions ever.

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                            #58
                            Originally posted by PC Plod View Post
                            Scum already have the stadium & commercial marketing revenue in place tho, it is entirely different.

                            As I've said eleswhere, it's the loans against the club to purchase the club that are my principle objection financially speaking. This sits ont top of that remember & we havent even begin to borrow for the stadium (which I dont object to btw).
                            Those loans are NOT secured against the club.

                            Stadium borrowing will be secured against future revenues the same as Arsenal did.

                            I still think that the analogy with manure is good they have mountains more debt than we do even when you factor in the cost of the stadium. The real thing they have that we don't is 76K punters. Other than that we're pretty much on the same footing.

                            I really don't get it, all Hicks is doing is what both Manure and Arsenal have done successfully in the past. Why not follow a model that works?
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                              #59
                              They are against the club mate- dont be fooled by this parent company facade, it's academic.
                              3rd place. Worst champions ever.

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                                #60
                                Originally posted by PC Plod View Post
                                They are against the club mate- dont be fooled by this parent company facade, it's academic.
                                THey are NOT. That is a fact.
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