The draw was a FIX

[AFII]

It's a fix. Very suspicious camera angles, you don't really see when he draws any of the teams, only when he picks up the ball.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnCeWYhRUFE

[Neil Young]

UEFA spokesman William Gallard said: "He must have supernatural powers. I know the people who did the draw and I am 150% certain it is completely honest.

"You might be able to fool a computer but everyone can see the teams are picked out fairly this way."

Steve Harrison, content manager for Trinity Mirror's websites in the North West, said: "The fact that a full prediction of the Champions League draw appeared on our forum site well before the live draw took place in Switzerland is quite remarkable.

"We are investigating the circumstances surrounding this posting. As a result the site - at http://forums.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/ - has experienced a dramatic increase in visitors

The fact he claims to be 150% certain simply proves UEFA are perfectly willing even to break the laws of mathematics.

[Pablo]

The fact he claims to be 150% certain simply proves UEFA are perfectly willing even to break the laws of mathematics.

When you willing to break through that mythical post 100% certain barrier though why would you stop at 150%, why not 200% certain?

You've got to admit that's suspicious!!!!!!!!

[El Jefecito]

It's a fix. Very suspicious camera angles, you don't really see when he draws any of the teams, only when he picks up the ball.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnCeWYhRUFE

Thanks!

I just don't see how you could fix that.

[AFII]

Thanks!

I just don't see how you could fix that.

Very easy with hot and cold balls. For example when he should draw us then the only hot or cold ball is the Liverpool ball.

[red g]

Very easy with hot and cold balls. For example when he should draw us then the only hot or cold ball is the Liverpool ball.

but surely there would be 4hot balls and 4 cold balls? so how could that be fixed???? i presume i am being a stella induced thickie?



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[Vermilion]

There is a good chance of a Full English in Moscow, it wasn't that bad a draw was it ?, unless it's a very wealthy Russian that had it fixed that is, for Personal but still football team reasons, rather than it being a uefa fix against the English

I'm sorry i never saw this prediction that was posted, it's just the sort of stupid thing i would go out & copy on to a betting slip, for the sake of having a daft bet. A small stake bet the correct way would turn a very handsome return indeed. Ah well, i lose again.

[Matt]

but surely there would be 4hot balls and 4 cold balls? so how could that be fixed???? i presume i am being a stella induced thickie?



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If you had 2 cold balls, 2 hot balls, 2 spiky balls and 2 bouncy balls it'd be pretty easy mate.

[Vermilion]

but surely there would be 4hot balls and 4 cold balls? so how could that be fixed???? i presume i am being a stella induced thickie?



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I heard the Hot/Cold ball theory, but as you say 4 of each, so how to determine who is who, then who is who from the not Hot/Cold Balls, it's surely impossible to get all ties correct that way.

[Barnyard]

There is a good chance of a Full English in Moscow, it wasn't that bad a draw was it ?, unless it's a very wealthy Russian that had it fixed that is, for Personal but still football team reasons, rather than it being a uefa fix against the English

I'm sorry i never saw this prediction that was posted, it's just the sort of stupid thing i would go out & copy on to a betting slip, for the sake of having a daft bet. A small stake bet the correct way would turn a very handsome return indeed. Ah well, i lose again.

I agree, if it has been fixed it must be Abramovich. Surely he would want the best chance of setting up a Man Utd - Chelsea final in his home country?

[Darkon]

It's a fix. Very suspicious camera angles, you don't really see when he draws any of the teams, only when he picks up the ball.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnCeWYhRUFE

So when is making the draw then if not when picking up the ball I am almost certain that when he picks up a ball from the bowl, that most certaintly constitutes the draw...

[Shaggy]

There is a good chance of a Full English in Moscow, it wasn't that bad a draw was it ?, unless it's a very wealthy Russian that had it fixed that is, for Personal but still football team reasons, rather than it being a uefa fix against the English

I'm sorry i never saw this prediction that was posted, it's just the sort of stupid thing i would go out & copy on to a betting slip, for the sake of having a daft bet. A small stake bet the correct way would turn a very handsome return indeed. Ah well, i lose again.

But they wouldn't have taken the bet

I was on phone to william hill and told them what i wanted.... it took me holding for 20mins for the lady to come back and she said to me sorry i've been instructed not to take this bet!!!!!! I said you take bets on all other draws why not this, sorry i can't answer that!!!! fiddled mate trust me.

[Vermilion]

If you had 2 cold balls, 2 hot balls, 2 spiky balls and 2 bouncy balls it'd be pretty easy mate.

That would be to obvious.

[Darkon]

Very easy with hot and cold balls. For example when he should draw us then the only hot or cold ball is the Liverpool ball.

Do you actually believe that??? And what about the rest of the balls then??

This is of course overseeing the fact that houndreds of people are present at the draw, and that the bowls are in place long before the draw, which only leaves super-thermo balls left as an option...

Can't see, being way to paranoid... We got arsenal - so what, we might end up playing fenerbahce in the semis for all we know

[El Jefecito]

I agree, if it has been fixed it must be Abramovich. Surely he would want the best chance of setting up a Man Utd - Chelsea final in his home country?

Abramovich wouldn't have chosen us for the semi. Not if he has any sense anyway.