The draw was a FIX

[MrMichael]

Show me a better one.

Foinavon in the 1967 Grand National

[el matador]

just spoke to mike at the echo and he didnt know anything about this.

He does now.

[Dan]

Rumours coming in to me are that C Dogg is involved in this

[Reece]

Rumours coming in to me are that C Dogg is involved in this

Good point. He apparently likes playing with small balls.

[Imy]

Rumours coming in to me are that C Dogg is involved in this

@ your sig, nice try though!!

[MrMichael]

LFC weren't picked out of the hat first, so you can't say

lfc v ??, 7x5x3x1 - unless it really is Friday afternoon and I've taken a turn for the worse...

It doesn't matter who's drawn out first. What we're talking about is the odds of somebody saying it'll be lfc v xxx team, and so on, to get all 4 combinations right.

You can take any other club as the starting point, its irrelevant, there are then 7 other teams you can put with them. Then you take another, there's 5, and so on.

So the independant odds of someone correctly calling all 4 ties (if the home and away bit is irrelevant) are 7 x 5 x 3 x 1.

[calvoboy]

'Could' be a fix but I just think it's a huge coincidence, they do happen from time to time.

You're right, of course - I would tend to believe that a little bit more though if there were a few other threads claiming to know the draw in advance that got it wrong.

It just smells a bit fishy - one thread, one guess, absolutely spot on.

[Barnyard]

It doesn't matter who's drawn out first.

Surely it does matter as thats what decides who's at home?

He got all the home and away parts right as well!

[Hansi]

The guy didn't just predict the outcome, he even predicted the order of the matches, exactly how they came out.

Not according to the screenshot earlier in the thread.

[Kenneth]

So it's pretty much 1%, which was said on the Draw thread ages ago

[Kenneth]

Surely it does matter as thats what decides who's at home?

He got all the home and away parts right as well!

Don't think he did.

[BFG]

Don't think he did.

He got the teams right, that's all.

[Jack D Rips]

Not according to the screenshot earlier in the thread.

Not only did he name the pairings. He named them in the same order they came out.

I got an Elvis Presley on this one

[Rich]

It doesn't matter who's drawn out first. What we're talking about is the odds of somebody saying it'll be lfc v xxx team, and so on, to get all 4 combinations right.

You can take any other club as the starting point, its irrelevant, there are then 7 other teams you can put with them. Then you take another, there's 5, and so on.

So the independant odds of someone correctly calling all 4 ties (if the home and away bit is irrelevant) are 7 x 5 x 3 x 1.

I understand what you're saying...... BUT

a draw

Liverpool v Arsenal isn't the same draw as Arsenal v Liverpool - which is what you're claiming.

So for a 2 team draw there are 2 permutations.

4 team draw there are 12 permutations. (You'd claim there were 3?)

6 team draw there are 240 permutations (You'd claim 15?)

and so on....

As far as I understand it, not only did this poster get the draw right, he called how they came out of the hat right too....

[Rich]

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