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    #46
    Originally posted by saveferris View Post
    Which i also said. Both players showed petulance following or during action taken by the ref. Both should be charged for improper conduct towards officials.
    The ref was free to decide what to do about cole. Mascher had already been red carded so any futher punnishment was out of his control, so the FA have stepped in.

    Cole should have been given 2 yellows imo, but he wasn't. He probably should be charged for his conduct, but the circumstances are very different.
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      #47
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        #48
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          #49
          Originally posted by Reece View Post
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            #50
            Just a point regarding refereeing in Rugby Union, while I agree it has its plus points, there just isn't the same level of intensity when it comes to calling the right decision, the rules aren't as hard nor as fast as in football, and greater onus is on the Referee to call the game how he sees fit.

            It's very rare that "bad calls" are remembered long after the incident, and even something as fundamental as New Zealand losing against France in the last WC due to an obvious forward pass isn't really rounded on by fans, media and players. (I know NZ are still upset about the decision, but it pales into insignificance if something similar had happened in a football WC quarter final.)

            In my opinion, only incorporating some of the rugby-style refing would do much to change things.
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              #51
              Originally posted by saveferris View Post
              This is where my frustrations lie. Cole also displayed improper conduct towards an official. They made the excuse that he had been dealt with on the field. So had masher, both examples of petulance came after the initial incident.
              I feel the same surely Cole also warranted a charge of bringing the game into disrepute also, judging by the reaction of the press/public after, or can these charges not be brought for an on the field incident?
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                #52
                Originally posted by Exiled_red View Post
                I feel the same surely Cole also warranted a charge of bringing the game into disrepute also, judging by the reaction of the press/public after, or can these charges not be brought for an on the field incident?
                The FA can charge someone for bringing the game into disrepute after looking at video evidence after the game even if the ref(s) don't mention the incident in his report.

                Say for example that someone spit on another player and the ref(s) miss it then the FA can ban him after looking at video evidence.

                So the FA could have banned Cole, Lampard and Terry without any problems at all if they could find the time to get out of Roman's arse.
                Just believe and you never know what will happen.

                According to Benitez it's important not simply to go out to win but to go out prepared to win, which means players have to put in the same level of work on a daily basis. Anything else is unacceptable.

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                  #53
                  We can paint this any colour we like lads but the fact is 2 wrongs dont make a right. Yes Cole did this, somebody else did that and it annoys the **** out of us.

                  However we cant escape the fact that Mascher was totally in the wrong on Sunday. I love the man but he let us and the team down badly on sunday
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                    #54
                    Originally posted by Jack D Rips View Post
                    We can paint this any colour we like lads but the fact is 2 wrongs dont make a right. Yes Cole did this, somebody else did that and it annoys the **** out of us.

                    However we cant escape the fact that Mascher was totally in the wrong on Sunday. I love the man but he let us and the team down badly on sunday
                    Masch should be banned for another game so I agree with you but it's double standard to not even charge Cole, Lampard and Terry for bringing the game into disrepute.

                    That stinks.
                    Just believe and you never know what will happen.

                    According to Benitez it's important not simply to go out to win but to go out prepared to win, which means players have to put in the same level of work on a daily basis. Anything else is unacceptable.

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                      #55
                      What ALL the refs now must do starting from the games this weekend is that they must give everyone a yellow card that confronts the ref it isn't the Captain that do it whatever he says to him.

                      If they don't, then it's double standard. I doubt that that will happen.
                      Just believe and you never know what will happen.

                      According to Benitez it's important not simply to go out to win but to go out prepared to win, which means players have to put in the same level of work on a daily basis. Anything else is unacceptable.

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                        #56
                        Originally posted by AFII View Post
                        What ALL the refs now must do starting from the games this weekend is that they must give everyone a yellow card that confronts the ref it isn't the Captain that do it whatever he says to him.

                        If they don't, then it's double standard. I doubt that that will happen.
                        Totally, it won't happen though, there may be a few more bookings than normal this weekend, but in a couple of weeks it'll all be forgotten about, which is what's so annoying the fact is the Chelsea incident kicked all this off and we're the one's being made an example of. Regardless of anyone's opinion on what Mascherano did it's the double standards of the FA that gets to me most
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                          #57
                          Originally posted by AFII View Post
                          What ALL the refs now must do starting from the games this weekend is that they must give everyone a yellow card that confronts the ref it isn't the Captain that do it whatever he says to him.

                          If they don't, then it's double standard. I doubt that that will happen.
                          I think it will probably happen this weekend but after that we will gradually return to normal - it happens with nearly all the FA/UEFA/FIFA directives. This will probably be more easily seen due to the daft press coverage and the fact that the initiative was started that way too.
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                            #58
                            Mascherano owns up to FA charge

                            Liverpool's Javier Mascherano has admitted a charge of improper conduct in relation to his red card against Manchester United on Sunday.

                            The 23-year-old has asked the Football Association for a personal hearing with the case set to be heard on 3 April.

                            Mascherano was charged for his reaction towards referee Steve Bennett after the sending off in the Reds' 1-0 defeat.

                            The Argentine is suspended for Sunday's match against Everton, but he could now miss an additional two games.

                            But any domestic ban would exclude the Champions League quarter-final first and second legs against Arsenal on 2 and 9 April.

                            The FA had given Mascherano an extra 24 hours to respond to his improper conduct charge because he had been away on international duty with Argentina.

                            Mascherano appeared to question Bennett's decision to caution Fernando Torres against United, and was then shown a second yellow card himself.

                            Liverpool's next two Premier League games after the Merseyside derby clash with Everton are against Arsenal on 5 April and Blackburn eight days later.

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                              #59
                              Hopefully it shouldnt be to much of a problem. I dont think he would have played against Everton anyways due to being away, and letting him have a rest during the 3 games with Arsenal could help us out in the champs league.

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