'I hope we don't win tonight'

[Guest]

It's not fear mate. I want to win and I want to beat the Mancs in the final. It's just, as stated above, if we were to reach the final and lose, then we would rather have just gone out in the semis and saved ourselves the heartache.

I know what you mean. Failure should never enter in our heads imo. If we lose, use it to bounce back and beat them next time around. That's my philosophy anyway.

[Darth Marty]

I know exactly what shaggy and others mean because i feel exactly the same, whilst losing this evening would be heart breaking it would somehow seem not so bad simply because, in my mind anyway, it saves me the utter despair and woe i would feel should we lose to the scum in the final.

Of course on the flip side by winning the thing whilst beating the arse, chavs and scum as well as inter we would undoubtedly be the best team in europe and no one could argue with that.

The joy of beating the scum would be mindblowingly great as well, picturing slur alecs face when stevie picks up No.6......

[el matador]

Some people just say ill-advised rubbish when they are thoroughly ****ting themselves. If Torres banged one in in the last minute I'd bet my life that they'd be jumping round the room maniacally like the rest of us.

no mate i can assure you that if torres banged one in the last minute i dont do jumping around - I do my manic, rabid, zombie like stagger with saliva drooling from my mouth whilst mumbling incessantly in a mixture of french, spanish, english and other languages my wife cant understand.

But I am ****ting myself.

[SNFT]

I hope we don't win either. I'm hoping for a 2-2 draw!!

Is right, i'm doing 2-2 in the bookies with Sami th score the 1st goal, should get good odds..........

[NICKZS]

no mate i can assure you that if torres banged one in the last minute i dont do jumping around - I do my manic, rabid, zombie like stagger with saliva drooling from my mouth whilst mumbling incessantly in a mixture of french, spanish, english and other languages my wife cant understand.

But I am ****ting myself.

I do strange things in this kind of mood. I've already said a number of prayers to St. Anthony in the hope that he finds us an away goal (or two) and have promised my nan to go to mass with her if we get through as a return compliment to the powers that be.

Prayer: the last act of a desperate man.

If we get through tonight you all know who to thank

[Guest]

I do strange things in this kind of mood. I've already said a number of prayers to St. Anthony in the hope that he finds us an away goal (or two) and have promised my nan to go to mass with her if we get through as a return compliment to the powers that be.

Prayer: the last act of a desperate man.

If we get through tonight you all know who to thank

Rafa

[mersey86]

The joy of beating the scum would be mindblowingly great as well, picturing slur alecs face when stevie picks up No.6......

Or when Sami picks up #6 after Stevie and Carra get booked tonight.

[el matador]

I do strange things in this kind of mood. I've already said a number of prayers to St. Anthony in the hope that he finds us an away goal (or two) and have promised my nan to go to mass with her if we get through as a return compliment to the powers that be.

Prayer: the last act of a desperate man.

If we get through tonight you all know who to thank

man i thought i was obsessed !

class...

[NICKZS]

Rafa

Well, God, Rafa, same thing.

[Vermilion]

Or when Sami picks up #6 after Stevie and Carra get booked tonight.

Facing the scum with no Stevie or Carra........

[mersey86]

Marky would try to convince you that's a good thing.

[vonk]

Best to worst case scenarios....

1. Beating the Scum in the final
2. Chelsea beating the scum in the final
3. Chelsea losing the final
4. Us losing the final and those *******s carrying Big Ears around Manchester.

It's emotional turmoil but I hope we win tonight. Better to have a chance at 1. than fear of 4.

[Neil Young]

I agree with fredo on this.

The idea that we will find it better to have lost tonight rather than to have won tonight and then to have lost in Moscow so if we do lose in Moscow we'll look back and say "If only we'd lost to Chelsea instead we wouldn't be suffering this pain right now" requires such tortuous metaphysics as to be meaningless.

OK, maybe in a non-paraclidian multidimensional universe it would be possible (in-joke for the cosmological quantum metatheorists out there ) but that's not how we experience spacetime (in the non-Feynmannian sense of course lol).

So let's keep it simple: If we win tonight we get the pleasure of winning plus the prospect of winning a sixth European Cup at the expense of Man United. If we end up losing to Man United it will be painful. If we lose tonight it will be painful.

Pain of losing is the price you sometimes have to pay for the pleasure of winning.

[hamshanks]

Of course I want us to win and win in the final, but I must admit i am filled with dread at what might take place in Moscow. We could be both banned from European football for 10 years. The kind of bile hatred and violence that could be unleashed is really worrying

[Neil Young]

At least it would stop Man United catching up our five/six wins for a while.

You're right though, it's not a comforting thought.