We signed a new Keeper!!

[Reece]

I do love the he won the golden glove award debate though. I once got a league winners medal in underage footy and was out all season with a broken leg. Didn't stop people from telling me what a great season I had though!

Except Reina has actually played in the league all season.... So it's not really anything like your example.

As i've said before, if a striker was to win the golden boot award three years in a row, you'd be pretty sure he was a bit good.

[Nic83]

So the point your (failing wildy at) making is that Reina doesn't deserve much of the credit for the clean sheets and it's much more to do with the team in front of him that his own performances?

If so it's utter bollocks.

No, of course he deserves credit just not as much as people give him. It's down to the team as a whole and should be called something else. That award cannot and does not give you a proper analysis of a keepers performance during the season.

[Guest]

Nic, get a life mate.

[JPK]

You would too if you were me

I have seen you so I would'nt

Dudek had a similar defence and was crap.

[Nic83]

Says the bloke who is never off EST....

How can't people see my point here? I would have thought it was pretty basic

[Nic83]

I have seen you so I would'nt

Dudek had a similar defence and was crap.

My point exactly, put the dude between the sticks for us now and I dare say he'd be contending for that prestigious award despite being crap

[Guest]

Says the bloke who is never off EST....

How can't people see my point here? I would have thought it was pretty basic

That's too factual and football isn't about 'facts' alone, that's what I always tell Sydney.

It's clear to most that Pepe is a fabulous keeper. The way he commands his area and acts as an additional defender, sweeping everything up at the back is a joy to watch. It also allows our defense to push higher up the pitch and apply Rafa's tactical game to perfection.

[BFG]

No, of course he deserves credit just not as much as people give him. It's down to the team as a whole and should be called something else. That award cannot and does not give you a proper analysis of a keepers performance during the season.

No it's a direct comparison between how many shut-outs each keeper in the league has made every season. To win it three seasons running shows that Reina is an excellent goalkeeper, regardless of how good or bad the team around him is.

[Nic83]

Except Reina has actually played in the league all season.... So it's not really anything like your example.

As i've said before, if a striker was to win the golden boot award three years in a row, you'd be pretty sure he was a bit good.

The top scorer award is also slightly flawed IMO as the forwards in the lesser teams are at a major disadvantage. It should be run on some sort of points system.

But it is more accurate as if reflects finishing ability of the individual. It should though,a s I say be done on a goal/chance points ratio

[Finnish_Red]

My point exactly, put the dude between the sticks for us now and I dare say he'd be contending for that prestigious award despite being crap

Yep, poor Jerzy was a victim of Houllier's all out attacking football...

[Nic83]

No it's a direct comparison between how many shut-outs each keeper in the league has made every season. To win it three seasons running shows that Reina is an excellent goalkeeper, regardless of how good or bad the team around him is.

Mate are you really that stupid, seriously? Can you not see that a keeper in a stronger team behind a stronger defense has more of achance of winning it?

Therefore, the keeper that wins it is not necessarily the best keeper. FFS like. I'm done with you mate, you don't seem to have any common sense at all

[BFG]

The top scorer award is also slightly flawed IMO as the forwards in the lesser teams are at a major disadvantage. It should be run on some sort of points system.

But it is more accurate as if reflects finishing ability of the individual. It should though,a s I say be done on a goal/chance points ratio

And then that would totally ignore the fact that some strikers are much more efficient at making chances for themselves, making the right runs etc etc.

No system is perfect but for a keeper to win the Golden Glove three seasons running shows that he's pretty exceptional no matter what the flaws of the award are.

[Nic83]

Yep, poor Jerzy was a victim of Houllier's all out attacking football...

What?

[Nic83]

And then that would totally ignore the fact that some strikers are much more efficient at making chances for themselves, making the right runs etc etc.

No system is perfect but for a keeper to win the Golden Glove three seasons running shows that he's pretty exceptional no matter what the flaws of the award are.

Unbelievable. sometimes I think you're an Alien smoked up on gangie all day long.

[BFG]

Mate are you really that stupid, seriously? Can you not see that a keeper in a stronger team behind a stronger defense has more of achance of winning it?

Therefore, the keeper that wins it is not necessarily the best keeper. FFS like. I'm done with you mate, you don't seem to have any common sense at all

The irony. To be fair Nic I've thought you were an absolute plum from the very first time I logged on and I don't feel like that about any other poster.

You talk senseless **** and post as if you think you're a higher entity, when in fact you're just a dappy ginger bollocks.