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    Teamtalk Sums Up the Views of a Lot of Fans

    http://www.teamtalk.com/football/sto...746020,00.html

    TEAMtalk's Graham Shaw feels Rafael Benitez needs to show more ambition in the transfer market if Liverpool are to be serious title contenders.

    Eighteen years, and the wait goes on. The title drought on Merseyside shows no sign of ending just yet.

    We're already hearing the annual 'this is our year' proclamations from Steven Gerrard, Jamie Carragher and co.

    But surely even those two must be scratching their heads when they read who Rafa Benitez is reportedly out to buy this summer.

    Gareth Barry and James Milner appear to be high on the shopping list, with Stewart Downing also mentioned.

    But the eight-figure sums mentioned in some quarters must have knowledgeable Koppites coughing up cornflakes all over their red tops around the breakfast table. More 'ow' factor than 'wow'.

    Liverpool did make strides last season in terms of closing the gap on Manchester United and Chelsea, but for one reason only. They bought big.

    The acquisition of Fernando Torres used up a hefty portion of Benitez's kitty in the summer of 2007, but it was worth every penny.

    El Nino lit up the Premier League with some phenomenal goalscoring displays, and made Liverpool a real threat to most teams. Without him though they looked pretty average.

    Benitez already has a sizeable squad to work with, so I'd humbly submit that he should be looking for quality and not quantity this summer.

    If Barry is really a massively better option than Xabi Alonso I'd be very surprised - he's top-six, not Champions League for me. Good not great, lacking the pace and ability for the very highest level.

    And with Javier Mascherano already in the Anfield engine room, shouldn't they be looking for something just a little different?

    Milner and Downing, meanwhile, are hardly likely to terrorise opposing defences and set pulses racing on Merseyside (are they really better than Ryan Babel?). Personally I'd prefer the chances of Yossi Benayoun (who looks surplus to requirements) winning a game with a moment of magic.

    When Liverpool were in their pomp they bought the best, only going for players who could improve them. That's why the likes of Dalglish, Souness, Barnes and Beardsley ended up in a red shirt.

    Our man Rafa, though, appears to spend most of his time snapping up players who MIGHT be the next big thing. A bit like getting a cheap telly without a big brand name in the hope that it's quite good. Except you generally end up ditching it and upgrading because the picture's not great.

    As long as Torres can stay fit Liverpool might well be only one player short of being genuine title contenders. Just not the ones they're currently being linked with.

    Liverpool's form late last season was top-class. And for a fair part of the season they matched the top three. Their one big failing - they couldn't beat Manchester United, Arsenal and Chelsea. To do that you need quality throughout the team.

    Barry, Milner and Downing might not even be definite starters next season if they do end up moving to Merseyside. Squad players aren't what Benitez needs - he can only play 11 after all.

    The message is simple: buy the best or fail the test. Rafa, you have been warned.

    #2
    Some people should just stop trying to tell Rafa how to do his job

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      #3
      That's a decent read, he has some very valid points there.
      I like to lurk, if that's ok with you

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        #4
        Originally posted by lawrie View Post
        Some people should just stop trying to tell Rafa how to do his job
        Well sometimes Rafa makes mistakes so he opens himself up to questioning. What's wrong with that article besides it being from Teamtalk? He makes some very very very valid points

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          #5
          Originally posted by jonymadness View Post
          That's a decent read, he has some very valid points there.
          There's a couple of points I don't agree with. Firsty, Barry is not the same kind of player as El Jefecito. They are both midfielders but the comparison. I also think the 4231 means that you don't need the usual DM/AM pairing, so the point is moot anyway.

          Barry is not as good as Xabi, clearly, but Barry is more EFFECTIVE in the EPL.
          The Crushing Machine MKII

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            #6
            El Jef, one thing I reckon, we're covered in Central Midfield imo. Why not sell Xabi, then we'll have Gerrard, Mascher, Lucas able to play in the middle and get a good winger like Bastian and someone to play in the hole behind Torres. Would be a much wiser use of money. Wasting £20m plus on Barry and Downing makes no sense at all

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              #7
              Originally posted by El Jefecito View Post
              There's a couple of points I don't agree with. Firsty, Barry is not the same kind of player as El Jefecito. They are both midfielders but the comparison. I also think the 4231 means that you don't need the usual DM/AM pairing, so the point is moot anyway.

              Barry is not as good as Xabi, clearly, but Barry is more EFFECTIVE in the EPL.


              Took the words right out of my mouth - every single point.
              Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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                #8
                Originally posted by Sarb24 View Post
                El Jef, one thing I reckon, we're covered in Central Midfield imo. Why not sell Xabi, then we'll have Gerrard, Mascher, Lucas able to play in the middle and get a good winger like Bastian and someone to play in the hole behind Torres. Would be a much wiser use of money. Wasting £20m plus on Barry and Downing makes no sense at all
                To me, SG is no longer a midfielder, he got 20+20 last season most of it in the position behind Torres, to break that up would be lunacy.

                That only leaves El Jefecito and Lucas to cover the 2 in the 4231. Even if we get Barry I'd still be concerned about not having 4 players to cover the 2.

                Agree I wouldn't spend much on Downing. Problem there though is that Harry is gone and we need cover. Could Leto manage it? In a few games against the lower echelons perhaps, but we need someone that can do the business against all teams up to 5th and 6th. I'd be inclined to look abroad for a cheaper "squad player" as cover (all hell breaks loose )
                The Crushing Machine MKII

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by ShaggyAlonso View Post


                  Took the words right out of my mouth - every single point.
                  Damn, you must be losing the plot then
                  The Crushing Machine MKII

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Sarb24 View Post
                    Well sometimes Rafa makes mistakes so he opens himself up to questioning. What's wrong with that article besides it being from Teamtalk? He makes some very very very valid points
                    I could write an article saying how great the possible signing of Villa, Alves and Silva would be for Liverpool but it would have very little point. We have been linked with good players but this only concentrates on a select few for obvious reasons. Only Rafa and a few others know who we will be after and to believe only the negative stories shows the person is a WUM, has depressive mental problems or very gullible.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by El Jefecito View Post
                      To me, SG is no longer a midfielder, he got 20+20 last season most of it in the position behind Torres, to break that up would be lunacy.
                      Reminds me of Blallacks place at Leverkusan.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Kronenburg1892 View Post
                        Reminds me of Blallacks place at Leverkusan.
                        Elaborate, didn't follow Ballack at that time.
                        The Crushing Machine MKII

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                          #13
                          Ballack played a forward midfielder who pretty much ran the team at the time. Would set up runs, then get into the box to finish off the move. More of a deep striker. Something we've not seen since, either at Bayern or Chelsea or Germany.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by lawrie View Post
                            Some people should just stop trying to tell Rafa how to do his job
                            They day that none of us fans have opinions will be a very sad day indeed.

                            Just what would the point be of anything....

                            "If Gerrard continues to play up front, leaving this lack of creativity and intelligence in Midfield, the season WILL be over by Xmas."

                            I still don't think we'll finish in the top 4 this season."

                            FatTony 24/08/09

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                              #15

                              must have knowledgeable Koppites coughing up cornflakes all over their red tops


                              Red Top's.........****in Cheek. One is a more discerning reader.

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