Trust in US?

[El Jefecito]

Rafa will do the best that he can given the constraints the owners have put on us.

[jrd7]

Because its in all their interests for different reasons to deliver the players. They all have to work together on it or else its not going to happen.

It's not at all, it's in the owners interest to ensure they've got 29million quid to pay off their ****ing loan.

If I'm either of the cunts then after the run-in last year, I'd believe we'd get top 4 and semi's of CL without borrowing another cent. They're treading water at the moment, why on is it in their interest to find 40mill to guarantee top 3, because that's all it would guarantee.

That's where their interests lie. ****ing Gillett took out a 70million dollar loan in canada to pay himself a ****ing bonus. Anyone who thinks their prime interest isn't making good payments with the bank (for when they go back next year to get more) then they're misguided.

They can let Rafa raise 40 million in player sales and spend the lot - you know as well as I do the press mention nothing about the sales, only the fact that he's had yet more money for no title. They did the same to Rafa this year, constantly going on about the cash he'd spent in the summer. They can sit back and read that they've allowed Rafa to spend 80million in 2 years, without recognising he would have been responsible for 60 of that.

[El Jefecito]

It's not at all, it's in the owners interest to ensure they've got 29million quid to pay off their ****ing loan.

If I'm either of the cunts then after the run-in last year, I'd believe we'd get top 4 and semi's of CL without borrowing another cent. They're treading water at the moment, why on is it in their interest to find 40mill to guarantee top 3, because that's all it would guarantee.

That's where their interests lie. ****ing Gillett took out a 70million dollar loan in canada to pay himself a ****ing bonus. Anyone who thinks their prime interest isn't making good payments with the bank (for when they go back next year to get more) then they're misguided.

They can let Rafa raise 40 million in player sales and spend the lot - you know as well as I do the press mention nothing about the sales, only the fact that he's had yet more money for no title. They did the same to Rafa this year, constantly going on about the cash he'd spent in the summer. They can sit back and read that they've allowed Rafa to spend 80million in 2 years, without recognising he would have been responsible for 60 of that.

FYI, last year the owners let us spend 68.5m on players. We recouped 30.5m, that's a 38m differential!

[SimonPilot]

Exactly.
He can pick the next greatest winger whilst he's still young and worth 10m instead of the 25m he'll be worth in 2 seasons.

But even if he does first he as to convince G&H to buy him.

Even then it's only if Parry to make the deal without cocking it up.

2 very big if's and I don't trust either of 'em.

I don't blame Rafa for saying that. He as to present a united front and be optimistic, but I have a feeling come next summer we'll be no better off than we are now.

I certainly hope I'm wrong but. And there's a lot of window left for it to happen.

Bah, I hate threads like this, I've been denying my negativity and letting dreams happen but this forcing me to think about it kind of killed the mood

Lol.

Like Pennant?

[Kenneth]

A 15m bid for barry makes me question Rafa more than the owners.

[billy_mac]

It's not at all, it's in the owners interest to ensure they've got 29million quid to pay off their ****ing loan.

If I'm either of the cunts then after the run-in last year, I'd believe we'd get top 4 and semi's of CL without borrowing another cent. They're treading water at the moment, why on is it in their interest to find 40mill to guarantee top 3, because that's all it would guarantee.

That's where their interests lie. ****ing Gillett took out a 70million dollar loan in canada to pay himself a ****ing bonus. Anyone who thinks their prime interest isn't making good payments with the bank (for when they go back next year to get more) then they're misguided.

They can let Rafa raise 40 million in player sales and spend the lot - you know as well as I do the press mention nothing about the sales, only the fact that he's had yet more money for no title. They did the same to Rafa this year, constantly going on about the cash he'd spent in the summer. They can sit back and read that they've allowed Rafa to spend 80million in 2 years, without recognising he would have been responsible for 60 of that.

Calm down man... G&H have their reasons, Parry has his and Rafa has his own reasons. But the end result is that we have to be competative on the pitch and to be challenging for CL and the league for any off them to be in a job. To do this everyone has to get along until the window closes and the squad is complete for next season.

G&H are business men, they got the club for a good price. If they sell it now they'll make a profit. They didn't because they can see the potential. You buy low and sell high. If we win the league and the CL or come close, the Club will go up in value but for this to happen there has to be improvements on the pitch. Them paying the banks and getting rich and us becoming successful goes hand in hand. I don't like them, I don't trust them.... But I do think that we'll make the signings that Rafa will be very happy with and that will improve us.

[marcus50bucks]

A 15m bid for barry makes me question Rafa more than the owners.

How much do you think he's worth?

[billy_mac]

There's a lot of distrust out there

[SK]

Calm down man... G&H have their reasons, Parry has his and Rafa has his own reasons. But the end result is that we have to be competative on the pitch and to be challenging for CL and the league for any off them to be in a job. To do this everyone has to get along until the window closes and the squad is complete for next season.

G&H are business men, they got the club for a good price. If they sell it now they'll make a profit. They didn't because they can see the potential. You buy low and sell high. If we win the league and the CL or come close, the Club will go up in value but for this to happen there has to be improvements on the pitch. Them paying the banks and getting rich and us becoming successful goes hand in hand. I don't like them, I don't trust them.... But I do think that we'll make the signings that Rafa will be very happy with and that will improve us.

good point

they haven't let us down regarding transfers have they? i mean we did buy torres, babel and lucas last summer, players we (probably) couldn't afford if it weren't for their money, at least not all of them in one summer

didn't moores also take a loan to push through the kuyt deal or am i mistaken?

[Walter]

I trust Rafa. I do not trust his bosses.

correct

[EwarWoo]

Like Pennant?

Yes. Pennant is a fantastic example. That's what you get instead when you have tight purse strings and Parry doing the negotiating.

[Colemere]

Rafa I trust to name his targets, hence Villa, but the Yanks wont make that sort of money available.