Voronin looked good yesterday and we all know what he's really like, too early to judge Degen, Cavelleri looked equally poor.
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I still think that Voronin is a better player than he gets credit for (even if I don't think he is really good enough). If it wasn't for how doing so for the Crow back fired I would be tempted to start a Degen fan club."The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
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Degen has looked like an absolutely liability in the admittedly small amount of time we've seen him on the pitch so far.
As far as I'm concerned it should be Agger and Skrtle at the back, with Carra slotting it at right back. I still rate Arbeloa very highly as well.
We spent the thick end of ten million on the lad Dossena, so I'd be surprised if he isn't an instant first choice left back.
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especially if we end up buying an attacking right sided midfielder/winger.Originally posted by anfieldanfield View PostDegen has looked like an absolutely liability in the admittedly small amount of time we've seen him on the pitch so far.
As far as I'm concerned it should be Agger and Skrtle at the back, with Carra slotting it at right back. I still rate Arbeloa very highly as well.
We spent the thick end of ten million on the lad Dossena, so I'd be surprised if he isn't an instant first choice left back.
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The guy has been out injured for a while, has just moved to a new club (and country) and has made two (brief-ish) appearances in preseason games.
GIVE THE GUY A CHANCE!!The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.
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I think those five are our best options.Originally posted by PC Plod View PostPointless putting Carra out at RB, when we are after an attacking threat there. I'd go with:
Dossena- Agger/Skrtel-Carra-Arbs
While they're all decent cover, I can't see Finnan, Hyppia, Aurelio or Degen holding down a regular first team spot.
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what might you have have alliterate for skittles after his first woeful game. And would you have done it to his scary faceOriginally posted by serenejim View PostOn admittedly one outing may I be the first to christen him "dodgy Degen".
"When Sir Henry broke a fast, you cursed double glazing."
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I think this is the year for Arbeloa to establish himself as our first choice right back.
The problem for him, much like Carra until he became first choice CB, is that he can adapt to many different positions so he never has to the chance to make any one his own. The dreaded utility player.
I believe Rafa spending big on a left back means he views Dossena as a first choice addition to the squad. Degen I feel is cover and nothing more. If he does start any league games it will no doubt be against sides that have no attacking ambition.
Any combination of Carra/Agger/Skertle is as good as anywhere; I would say Skertle + Agger is the closest we have to a Vidic - Ferdinand combination, but Carra is clearly the captain and organiser of the defence missing only a handful of league games since Rafa arrived so I would be very surprised if that trend doesn't continue.
Arbeloa - Carra - Agger - Dossena I reckon.
Then again put Carra, Agger & Skertle in a 3-4-3/5-3-2 formation and you only need one holding midfielder."The definition of insanity is not running into the same wall again and again; it's expecting a different result every time you do it."
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Alot of people seem to be writing off Degan and including Donessa in their team, can I just remind you we haven't seen Donessa in a Liverpool shirt yet. Next week some of you could be having a similar discussion about him
The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.
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Originally posted by Exiled_red View PostAlot of people seem to be writing off Degan and including Donessa in their team, can I just remind you we haven't seen Donessa in a Liverpool shirt yet. Next week some of you could be having a similar discussion about him
You'd hope that RAfa hadnt wasted £7m on a LB equvialent of that worthless shower of ****e Degen.*
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3rd place. Worst champions ever.
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He was playing in SwitzerlandOriginally posted by Exiled_red View PostThe guy has been out injured for a while, has just moved to a new club (and country) and has made two (brief-ish) appearances in preseason games.
GIVE THE GUY A CHANCE!!
Just kiddin give the bloke a chance."I'm sorry you'll have to speak up I'm wearing a towel".
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I think I'm one of very few people who are still unsure about Skrytel.Originally posted by Pedenj View PostWay to early to judge, I remember Skrtel's first game against Havant & Waterlooville, he was awful that day against a team that were probably one of the lowest down that we have played in modern times.
We need to give the lad some time, and let him develop and then see whether he is any good.
"If Gerrard continues to play up front, leaving this lack of creativity and intelligence in Midfield, the season WILL be over by Xmas."
I still don't think we'll finish in the top 4 this season."
FatTony 24/08/09
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