this just makes us look unprofessional,we've managed to chase a player all summer knowing he's valued at 18mil.then a week before the new season we say he costs too much,so we have managed to unsettle a player and soured the relationship between the two clubs.
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Hope you are right a fully functioning Xabi is the best CM in the world. I'm just not convinced on the basis of a couple of pre-season games where he hasn't been put under any pressure that he has turned a corner.Originally posted by JPK View PostAlonso will show Rafa what a mistake he was going to make
On the bright side, I think Lucas can cover if Xabi doesn't improve.The Crushing Machine MKII
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Disagree with all of that mate,Originally posted by JPK View PostRafa was too cocky in this whole saga and he has unsettled Barry and pretty much told Alonso that he does not want him anymore. How embarassing this is.
Rafa wasn't cocky at all, Martin O'neill was a knobhead
Barry could force this move if he wants to and I really believe we will get Barry at a much lesser price than quoted although I believe Rafa's persistence may cost him his job at the end of this season if we don't bring home something major.
And could you please post me a quote were Rafa says that he doesn't want Alonso.
Cheers.
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There is no doubt Alonso will have extra motivation but I expect his to play his usual game. Alonso was not that bad that he should have been sold imo.Originally posted by -V- View PostAlonso deserved a kick up the backside and thats what Rafa gave him. So if he now plays a blinder of a season then it's because the manager told him straight he wasn't performing well enough. Rafa was spot on
Carra had a poor season and needed a kick up the back side. With Agger and Skrtel pushing him, you can bet he will up his game alot.
Rafa was cocky and thought he could unsttle Barry and get Villa to drop there price. MON is the winner here.Oh the man is a midfield maestro
and his passes are sooo delightful
everyone wants to know
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MON stood firm and although he was a knobhead still has his captain.Originally posted by Shanks007 View PostDisagree with all of that mate,
Rafa wasn't cocky at all, Martin O'neill was a knobhead
Barry could force this move if he wants to and I really believe we will get Barry at a much lesser price than quoted although I believe Rafa's persistence may cost him his job at the end of this season if we don't bring home something major.
And could you please post me a quote were Rafa says that he doesn't want Alonso.
Cheers.
I will search for quote but Rafa has made no secret that he wanted to sell Xabi.Oh the man is a midfield maestro
and his passes are sooo delightful
everyone wants to know
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Originally posted by shanks69 View Postthis just makes us look unprofessional,we've managed to chase a player all summer knowing he's valued at 18mil.then a week before the new season we say he costs too much,so we have managed to unsettle a player and soured the relationship between the two clubs.
Since when has Rick Parry ever looked anything other than Unprofessional?
I think anyone with any sense can clearly see that we have been trying to negotiate a lower price. Nothing wrong with that at all. Aston Villa are the club that will lose credibility. They have a player who has given them 10 years service and now they are stopping him from moving on by putting a ridiculous value on him
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Mate there is no winner. Everyone has lost. MONg has a seriously disgruntled team captain, who'll likely be staying and is not match fit.Originally posted by JPK View PostThere is no doubt Alonso will have extra motivation but I expect his to play his usual game. Alonso was not that bad that he should have been sold imo.
Carra had a poor season and needed a kick up the back side. With Agger and Skrtel pushing him, you can bet he will up his game alot.
Rafa was cocky and thought he could unsttle Barry and get Villa to drop there price. MON is the winner here.The Crushing Machine MKII
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Does this not seem somewhat like a battle between the owners who have clearly vetoed the sale and Rafa.
After some fans chants yesterday it is clear they have sufficient fans backing them rather than Rafa's judgement. They must be loving some of the reactions from this as they can clearly be seen to be doing what the fans want.
Personally I'd prefer to go with Rafa's judgement on players rather than theirs.
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It seems to me that since interest in Xabi waned. Rafa had a choice to make. Barry or Keane. He chose Keane.Originally posted by jonv View PostDoes this not seem somewhat like a battle between the owners who have clearly vetoed the sale and Rafa.
After some fans chants yesterday it is clear they have sufficient fans backing them rather than Rafa's judgement. They must be loving some of the reactions from this as they can clearly be seen to be doing what the fans want.
Personally I'd prefer to go with Rafa's judgement on players rather than theirs.The Crushing Machine MKII
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Alonso has not performed well enough for a long time now and he fully deserved a boot up the backside. For the right price it would be an acceptable sale.Originally posted by JPK View PostThere is no doubt Alonso will have extra motivation but I expect his to play his usual game. Alonso was not that bad that he should have been sold imo.
Carra had a poor season and needed a kick up the back side. With Agger and Skrtel pushing him, you can bet he will up his game alot.
Rafa was cocky and thought he could unsttle Barry and get Villa to drop there price. MON is the winner here.
Jamie Carragher played through the pain of broken ribs for most of the first 4 months of the season. He was also handicapped by having to play too many games because Agger was out. Cut the guy some slack. You are being really naive on that issue
MON is not a winner here. He may get to keep his captain but the guy has given his all for Villa for 10 years and has been treated **** by MON this summer. MON is a ****** and everyone can see it
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Barry has his England career to think of and will keep his level high if he is a good pro. He will probably get his move eventually even if it's not this year.Originally posted by El Jefecito View PostMate there is no winner. Everyone has lost. MONg has a seriously disgruntled team captain, who'll likely be staying and is not match fit.
Barry will be mad with Villa but what will he think of us now.
The games against them next year will be ferocious.Oh the man is a midfield maestro
and his passes are sooo delightful
everyone wants to know
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who's arsed?
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