Rafa Benitez issues Liverpool FC warning

[Craig_H]

i don't think anyone would disagree with that summary but i think it is worth looking for potential that you can work with and, if it doesnt, that you won't lose too much on. but i'd say kuyt will get about 6mill, pennant looks to be 4 mill and lucas should be given time but even he's worth 3 or 4. benayoun will get us what we paid.

kuyt has scored some pretty crucial goals for us and his fitness and work rate does put in the positions to do this. so him 'working hard' which often gets dismissed, literally bags us cruial goals.

so yes we'll lose a bit of money on them but isnt that the price for having to go for non first choice targets? it both raises the risk that they won't achieve what we want from them and it also means we cannot fairly say to the manager 'you built your team and it didnt work so thanks and goodbye'.

That's why i wouldnt go for them. They're plainly not good enough.

[FatTony]

To get that 20 million he would have to sell 3 or 4 players which would leave the squad a bit thin, maybe when some of the kids are up to the correct level he will be able to do that.

I'm not sure thats correct, I think he's always been in a position where he's had £20m or so to spend, but anything above that he's had to sell to buy.

Leave the squad a bit thin? We have a huge squad.

[Woobus]

I'm not sure thats correct, I think he's always been in a position where he's had £20m or so to spend, but anything above that he's had to sell to buy.

The last two seasons he has spent his budget on Torres, Keane and Mascherano. The rest of his buys have been selling a squad player who hasnt worked out to try another option in the hope they do.

[Johnny]

I don't mean that he should never have brought in loads of players, I just mean at times he's done this when he didn't really need too. Our squad is huge.

It seems to me that the Chavs and Mancs get their squad players from europe, very cheaply, youngsters we don't know about. If they're short due to injuries, they step up. Its not so much of a problem because of the quality around them. The transfers they make tend to be big as they spend only on the players that they think will really add something to the starting 11.

Rafa's starting to now do this and I hope it continues. I really don't think we now need to bring in anymore average players to plug holes, so it'll be interesting to see what he does from now on.

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OUTAndriy Voronin On Loan Hertha Ber
OUTCraig Lindfield On Loan Bournemth
OUTSebastian Leto On Loan Olympiakos Pira
OUTDavid Martin On Loan Leicester
OUTCharlie Barnett Free Transfer Tranmere
INRobbie Keane £ 19,000,000 Tottenham Hotspur
OUTJack Hobbs On Loan Leicester
OUTGodwin Antwi On Loan Tranmere
OUTAdam Hammill On Loan Blackpool
OUTScott Carson £ 3,250,000 West Brom
OUTRobbie Threlfall On Loan Hereford
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OUTDanny Guthrie Undisclosed Newcastle
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OUTJohn Arne Riise £ 3,960,000 Roma
OUTBesian Idrizaj Cancelled Contract
INPhilipp Degen Free Transfer Dortmund




Rafa streamlined the squad this season.

[gerbin11]

Say in the past two years he has had HIS team, and the previous two years he had mainly HOULLIER'S team...

Which team won more trophies?

By that token I'd say that he could have kept some of them as squad players and improved the first team without having to buy 50 players, of which only about 40 have turned out Liverpool class.

Thats quite a comment which of those players do you think he should have kept then.

Also 80% success rate in transfers (according to your comment) isn't that bad a return.

[Johnny]

Say in the past two years he has had HIS team, and the previous two years he had mainly HOULLIER'S team...

Which team won more trophies?

By that token I'd say that he could have kept some of them as squad players and improved the first team without having to buy 50 players, of which only about 40 have turned out Liverpool class.

Winning trophies is getting harder every year,much harder than when Houllier was boss.



He`s a great manager isn`t he???

[Rashid]

Winning trophies is getting harder every year,much harder than when Houllier was boss.

Is it really? FFS Harry Redknapp won one this year!

[gerbin11]

Is it really? FFS Harry Redknapp won one this year!

Which means Utd, Chelsea and Arsenal didn't, which kind of makes it a correct statement.

[Rashid]

Which means Utd, Chelsea and Arsenal didn't, which kind of makes it a correct statement.

United won the double instead!

[gerbin11]

apologies I was meaning the FA cup. To correct my post Arsenal and Chelsea also failed, point prooved

[Johnny]

United won the double instead!

Maybe you should support them.You`d be happier in your life and we wouldn`t have to listen to your constant droning on and on and on about how bad you think Rafa is.

Every team that didn`t win a trophy last yr should sack their manager.

[gerbin11]

Rashid, I find it more and more frustrating that you are quick to criticise but do not offer any alternative, what in your opinion should the club do.

[Rashid]

apologies I was meaning the FA cup. To correct my post Arsenal and Chelsea also failed, point prooved

The point is that it's always difficult to win trophies but to say that Houllier's duds who won a European Cup and an FA Cup were not even good enough to be reserves and squad players is ridiculous.

Rafa didn't need to buy 50 players, keeping 20 and buying 20 good ones would have sufficed. That way he could have bought better quality without obsessing over squad players and then moaning about our rivals spending big one ONE player etc.

[Johnny]

Is it really? FFS Harry Redknapp won one this year!

We should win a trophy every yr,it`s our divine right.

[FatTony]

apologies I was meaning the FA cup. To correct my post Arsenal and Chelsea also failed, point prooved

How does that prove anything

OK so Chelsea have spent big and even they didn't win anything, but in contrast Portsmouth spent little and did...