Rafa Benitez issues Liverpool FC warning

[Sarb]

By Houllier's men, it's those players there in the Houllier era.

Damn those selective facts

[Sarb]

bingo!!!!!!!!!

No you score the majority from two players in a team of 11

[Woobus]

I'm talking about the here and now. We have the squad to challenge now, and challenge, he must. Playing players out of position, isnt doing the best with what you've got.

Well we are joint top of the league here and now, and he has managed that while 3 of his players were away at the Olympics and losing his two star players to injury.
What players are you talking about playing out of position? If you mean Keane then surely you can see that was down to having no one available to play on the left? I really cant see him playing there again with Riera and Babel being fit and available.

[Red Chilli]

By Houllier's men, it's those players there in the Houllier era.

Damn those selective facts

Come on that's bollocks, Carragher and Gerrard are not Houllier's men, they were not signed by Houllier. He inherited them just like Rafa did.

Even if you give Rashid carra and Gerrard, he said VAST MAJORIRTY. At best it's one player more in the Houllier era.

You're being disingenuous Sarb, I expected better.

[Sarb]

Well we are joint top of the league here and now, and he has managed that while 3 of his players were away at the Olympics and losing his two star players to injury.
What players are you talking about playing out of position? If you mean Keane then surely you can see that was down to having no one available to play on the left? I really cant see him playing there again with Riera and Babel being fit and available.

Joint top of the league?Don't skirt over the fact that having ambitions for the title we went to Villa and set up and played for a draw and nothing more

That's ambition

[Johnny]

No you score the majority from two players in a team of 11

What were the other 9 doing,drinking cider behind the goals????

[Sarb]

Come on that's bollocks, Carragher and Gerrard are not Houllier's men, they were not signed by Houllier. He inherited them just like Rafa did.

Even if you give Rashid carra and Gerrard, he said VAST MAJORIRTY. At best it's one player more in the Houllier era.

You're being disingenuous Sarb, I expected better.

No. Dudek, Carra, Hyypia, Gerrard, Hamann were all there in the Houllier days and they were the main players behind the win in 2005.

[Sarb]

What were the other 9 doing,drinking cider behind the goals????

Defending

[Red Chilli]

If you want to go down that line Sarb, then Cisse is not a Houllier man as he was not at the club during the Houllier era.

We all know that's just ****ing ridiculous, Cisse is a Houllier player and Carra and Gerrard are not, they were inherited by Houllier and Rafa.

[Craig_H]

Well we are joint top of the league here and now, and he has managed that while 3 of his players were away at the Olympics and losing his two star players to injury.
What players are you talking about playing out of position? If you mean Keane then surely you can see that was down to having no one available to play on the left? I really cant see him playing there again with Riera and Babel being fit and available.

Having nobody to play on the left is partly down to the manager, but in truth, i'm not making judgements on this season yet, it's too early.

But Kuyt on the right wing is folly, Benayoun on the left is ineffective, and Babel is a striker by trade. Last season we had Crouch and Voronin on the wing at times, which is madness as i've never seen a pair of footballers less suited to a position.

We had consistently rotated systems and formations, players playing 2 games, missing one, playing 3, missing 2 - it's just not condusive to winning or challenging for the title. That's why i say he's his biggest enemy at times, he makes a very tough task almost impossible through his own decision making. Why make it harder for yourself, i just dont get it.

[Harv]

What were the other 9 doing,drinking cider behind the goals????

[Red Chilli]

No. Dudek, Carra, Hyypia, Gerrard, Hamann were all there in the Houllier days and they were the main players behind the win in 2005.

Yeah, well even if I give you 2005, that's ONE trophy.

Rafa won TWO trophies in 2006. Rashid believes Rafa has won more with Houllier's misfits than he has with his own players, which, is clearly WRONG.

[Rashid]

Who were Houllier's men in 2006?

FA Cup:

Reina: no
Finnan : yes
Carra : no
Sami : yes
Riise : yes
Gerrard : no
Xabi : no
Momo: no
Kewell: yes
Cisse: yes
Crouch : no

Subs used: Kromkamp: no, Hamann: yes, Morientes: no

Super Cup final

Reina: no
Josemi : no
Carra: no
Sami : yes
Riise: yes
hamann: yes
riise: yes
finnan: yes
Xabi : no
Zenden : no
Luis: no
Morientes: no

subs: Momo: no, Cisse: yes, pongolle: yes



Damn those pesky facts eh mate?

How can you include Carra and Gerrard as his? That's bull****. They should if anything be nuetral which gives the FA Cup team 4 of his own players 2 years after joining.

What a ridiculous post.

[Harv]

How can you include Carra and Gerrard as his? That's bull****. They should if anything be nuetral which gives the FA Cup team 4 of his own players 2 years after joining.

What a ridiculous post.

I think it could be argued that Cisse was never a Houllier player too...seeing as though the thick ******* never played a game under his rule.

[Red Chilli]

How can you include Carra and Gerrard as his? That's bull****. They should if anything be nuetral which gives the FA Cup team 4 of his own players 2 years after joining.

What a ridiculous post.

Right, we'll do this again but using Carra and Gerrard as neutral:

FA cup: Rafa's signings: (6) Reina, Xabi, Momo, Crouch, Kromkamp, Morientes.
Houllier's signings: (6) Finnan, Sami, Riise, Kewell, Cisse, Hamann.

VAST majority eh?

Super cup: Rafa's signings: (7) Reina, Josemi, Xabi, Zenden, Luis, Morientes, Momo
Houllier's signings: (6) Sami, Riise, Hamann, Finnan, Cisse, Pongolle.

Had enough facts yet Rashid?