Rafa Discussion Thread

[Craig_H]

ffs - nobody is saying that Rafa is beyond criticism, its the continual criticism (often put in a snipey way) in so many threads which sparks the same boring arguments and counter arguments that is getting tiresome and annoying.


I honestly can't believe you are pretending you do not understand this when it has been repeated by so many people recently.


My advice would be if you want to be critical, try to do it in a reasoned and balanced way, don't just throw negative 'off the cuff' comments around - this just comes across as 'baiting' and is probably why so many on here regard you as a wum.

That could be spun the other way, and some might say that the continual blind faith (often put in a RCDNW suck-up way) in so many threads which spark the same boring arguments and counter arguments that is getting tiresome and annoying.

I honestly can't believe you are pretending you do not understand this when it has been repeated by so many people recently.

My advice would be if you want to see everything as being positive, try to do it in a reasoned and balanced way, don't just throw random or irrelevant positive comments around - this just comes across as being a RCDNW and is probably why so many on here regard you as a head-in the sand merchant.

[Woobus]

That could be spun the other way, and some might say that the continual blind faith (often put in a RCDNW suck-up way) in so many threads which spark the same boring arguments and counter arguments that is getting tiresome and annoying.

The majority of the site doesnt want to read the same old depressing nonsense in every thread. If you listened to some people we are one of the worst teams in the league.
Is there something wrong with supporting the Liverpool manager on a Liverpool fan site? Think you will also find most of the crap starts with negative posters either having a pop at Rafa or snide remarks about him or the players.

[barnes10]

Thanks Greebo

You summed up exactly how i feel and whilst i try to look for the logic in the 'negative' posts, the fact that i come from this reality makes me just frustrated when others don't account for this when they have a pop.

anyway, shame you don't post more stuff. we're all getting tired of the bitchy threads lately.

[Assassin]

I am scared to talk about Rafa now for fear of a banning. I bet if I was repetitive about my love for Rafa or spoke totally off topic about Rafa's merits as opposed to my issues with him it would also be different. Just a thought RP.

Start talking, now!!!

[Skillz]

Nevertheless, somehow, Rafa's expected to deliver a title challenge with all those constraints. Last year, I genuinely believe we'd have challenged for the title but for 2 key injuries (Agger & Alonso) and the injuries inflicted upon us by the two morons who bought the club back in Feb 2007.



What I do know is that as far as I can see, there's no-one better around to manage Liverpool. Nobody more tactically astute, no-ne more dedicated, and certainly no-one else with the kind of personal integrity which I expect from a Liverpool Manager.



That's why I get p***ed off with all the RCDNR brigade. I'm not here to defend Rafa from them - I'm sure he can defend himself! But when all's said and done...

Who The Frigging Hell Do They Think Can Do Better??????????

Fantastic post. Sums up my feelings very well ATM. I only quoted my personal highlights, especially the one in bold

[rage]

ffs - nobody is saying that Rafa is beyond criticism, its the continual criticism (often put in a snipey way) in so many threads which sparks the same boring arguments and counter arguments that is getting tiresome and annoying.


I honestly can't believe you are pretending you do not understand this when it has been repeated by so many people recently.


My advice would be if you want to be critical, try to do it in a reasoned and balanced way, don't just throw negative 'off the cuff' comments around - this just comes across as 'baiting' and is probably why so many on here regard you as a wum.

maybe thats because some of you guys are so ultra defensive that you see it that way. i don't do 'off the cuff' remarks, this is usually the domain of the rcdnw brigade who respond to well discussed criticism with remarks such as 'go and support some-one else' or 'wum' etc.

rafa's on his way out if he doesn't deliver this year. there is no need to continue going round in circles with me or others that share my opinion to continue to state this and for pro rafa posters to think that rafa going will be the end of the world. now for the sake of our club i hope he does compete this year (the last thing i want to see is the mancs waste us another year and for us to be out of the title by xmas) but if he fails to do so we will move on.

if team selections, disjointed football and tactics comparable to anything under houllier continue this season that result in a race for 4th place then it is only a matter of time before even people such as yourself cannot defend the indefensible.

[Sarb]

Why is Rafa's job harder than Wengers? Yeah Wenger hasn't won anything in a while but his team have sustained a credible challenge towards the title for a lot longer than we do in a season. He doesn't spend anywhere near as much either

I'm intrigued why that is? Didn't he have to totally rebuild his defence? He's practically rebuilt his team and youth set up since he took over as well and if we're honest about it, we perform better in Europe than them, but if you were a betting man and had to bet on either us or them to win the title, you'd probably bet on them

He operates in the same league against big spending teams?

The fact that we play players out of position or wrong tactics at times is part of the reason we don't maintain credible title challenges. That's not an anti-rafa agenda. There are ex players like Hansen who say the same thing.

[donpisci]

maybe thats because some of you guys are so ultra defensive that you see it that way. i don't do 'off the cuff' remarks, this is usually the domain of the rcdnw brigade who respond to well discussed criticism with remarks such as 'go and support some-one else' or 'wum' etc.

rafa's on his way out if he doesn't deliver this year. there is no need to continue going round in circles with me or others that share my opinion to continue to state this and for pro rafa posters to think that rafa going will be the end of the world. now for the sake of our club i hope he does compete this year (the last thing i want to see is the mancs waste us another year and for us to be out of the title by xmas) but if he fails to do so we will move on.

if team selections, disjointed football and tactics comparable to anything under houllier continue this season that result in a race for 4th place then it is only a matter of time before even people such as yourself cannot defend the indefensible.

Come on fella, you say you don't bait, but then consistently use the RCDNW bull****?!

[rage]

Come on fella, you say you don't bait, but then consistently use the RCDNW bull****?!

but there clearly is a rcdnw following

[Pacman]

but there clearly is a rcdnw following

Maybe there is but there is deffo a rcdnr following as well.

[donpisci]

but there clearly is a rcdnw following

Are you sure, Mr. Happy?
I think that 'following' you referred to can also be classed as 'LFC Supporters'.

[rage]

Are you sure, Mr. Happy?
I think that 'following' you referred to can also be classed as 'LFC Supporters'.

see can't help yourself. dig away

[Red Chilli]

You need two threads, a pro one and an anti one.

The pro brigade should never enter the anti thread, and vice versa.

Might be more interesting if it was the other way round

[donpisci]

see can't help yourself. dig away

Yep, sorry- the Mr. Happy bit was below the belt!

Amused me though!

[Craig_H]

The majority of the site doesnt want to read the same old depressing nonsense in every thread. If you listened to some people we are one of the worst teams in the league.
Is there something wrong with supporting the Liverpool manager on a Liverpool fan site? Think you will also find most of the crap starts with negative posters either having a pop at Rafa or snide remarks about him or the players.

I think it's more down to the fact that they dont think the club will make a successful title challenge under Rafa and they desperately want it to.