Dirk Kuyt.

[DeeTheDog]

I bet we wouldn't be praising him if Man U had equalised after he missed that easy chance on Saturday towards the end of the game

Personally I like the guy. It's not his fault he's played out of position for the majority of his LFC career. From what i remember in his first season up front he scored a decent number of goals for a first season

We did win that game. Should we start a thread on Babel for missing two chances against Marseille last night. Forwards will miss, one of our greatest forwards in recent times Owen, missed a lot of chances but had the confidence to keep getting into the positions to score. That is the mark of the a good player.

[Assassin]

I bet we wouldn't be praising him if Man U had equalised after he missed that easy chance on Saturday towards the end of the game

He would have been torn to pieces on here if that had happened. Likewise, the same would have happened with Babel after he hit that piledriver from short range at the keeper yesterday.

[Vermilion]

I'd rather have an attacker who can attack.... how many defenders do we need? We already use to two holding midfielders and a box to box midfielder in attack.

He's always ****in attacking..imo it's just his goal count that's up for debate matey......and don't call me matey....matey.

[Sarb]

We did win that game. Should we start a thread on Babel for missing two chances against Marseille last night. Forwards will miss, one of our greatest forwards in recent times Owen, missed a lot of chances but had the confidence to keep getting into the positions to score. That is the mark of the a good player.

Not saying that. I rate Kuyt as a good player. Gives 110% in whichever position he plays. The wing isn't his best though. I think an extended run up front and he'd score quite a few goals.

Just making the point that a lot of people praise him at the minute but if we'd dropped points he would have been slated. Much the same as Babel

[Shaggy]

I think you'll find a pass that leads to a goal is an assist, be it 5 or 50 yards.

"I think you'll find..."

Do you actually say that in real life?

So it is, as I recognised in my response. However it is tenuous in the extreme to cite a 5 yard square pass while extolling his virtues.

[Resu]

[QUOTE=ShaggyAlonso;1159270
So it is, as I recognised in my response. However it is tenuous in the extreme to cite a 5 yard square pass while extolling his virtues.[/QUOTE]

I would agree with you if he stood completly still and just had to make an easy pass. In this case he made a good run, dragged opponents with him and played a good pass to Gerrard. This is what Kuyt offers in attack IMO, his running creates rooms for others. There was still alot to do for Gerrard, but it was the movement from other players that created the room for him.

[Shaggy]

Yes his running does create space. He is perpetual motion.

Doesn't alter the fact that it was a 5 yard pass that he actually played BEHIND Gerrard!

[Resu]

Doesn't alter the fact that it was a 5 yard pass that he actually played BEHIND Gerrard!

That was all part of the plan made by Rafa

[DeeTheDog]

"I think you'll find..."

Do you actually say that in real life?

So it is, as I recognised in my response. However it is tenuous in the extreme to cite a 5 yard square pass while extolling his virtues.

Why was it tenuous to cite an assist in game, as a positive? I know through your blinkered eyes it does not count, as it was only 5 yards and slightly behind. Yet, it was his intention to set-up Gerrard.

Why did you feel the need to mention my turn of phrase in a discussion about Kuyt? Is it to deflect attention from your flimsy argument?

[Shaggy]

Not at all, I was just remarking on what is a hugely patronising 'turn of phrase'.

You come skipping gleefully into a Kuyt thread to use a slightly inaccurate five yard pass as an example of Kuyt's worth to the side. I think you sound a bit desperate, that's all.

[Rashid]

Kuyt was magnificent againat United for his hard work and his amazing assist - not many other players would have got to that or ran that hard to get there. But his overall quality of play was poor, as it always is.

[Tee]

Kuyt was magnificent againat United for his hard work and his amazing assist - not many other players would have got to that or ran that hard to get there. But his overall quality of play was poor, as it always is.

Using your 'logic' here, but what is so amazing about pulling the ball back across goal?

[redlancer]

Yes his running does create space. He is perpetual motion.

Doesn't alter the fact that it was a 5 yard pass that he actually played BEHIND Gerrard!

he;'d seen the pass in front of Stevie saved
so good on him to make Stevie go for the other corner - the lads a genius

[Fierce]

Dirk Kuyt is a mystery. I know its YouTube, and it made Cisse look like a world beater, but still. The clips on there of his Feyenord days make it look like its actually a totally different player, although there's obviously no mistaking the lad

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_J4R-_Uymak&feature=related

[DannyMan2006]

I have to hold my hands up here. I wanted Kuyt gone in the summer but so far this season he has been very good.

Not amazing, but very good. If he can keep up this form then I am happy enough seeing him in the starting XI. I still dream of a top class RW, but he is doing our club proud at the moment. If he can get his shooting boots on then he could have a good year.

I'd still take the rumoured £14m from Hamburg, but he deserves credit for his performances thus far.