6 point games are the key to the title

[Sebastian Rooks]

"What is the use of beating Man U when we can't even score a goal against Stoke?"

And the other favourite one they use

"These are the teams you need to be beating to win the league"

You know I get tired of hearing this type of thing, and yesterday I heard it all again.

"It makes last weeks win meaningless"... well actually your all wrong.

Games against any side who are COMPETING AT THE TOP of the table are worth 6 points this means games against Man U, Chelsea and Arsenal are worth 6 points AGAINST THESE TEAMS
I always hear people saying " NO you still only get 3 points..." Well that’s rubbish because effectively there worth 6.

Man U finished 0n 87 points last season we finished on 76. If we had beaten Man U home and away we would have finished one point ahead of them FACT as they would have 6 points less and we would have 6 points more, that being a 12 point difference out of just 2 games. So come the end of the season last weeks win will be worth 6 points (as long as were somewhere near the top!)

If Man U had beaten us last week we would now be on 8 points and they'd be on 7... but as it stands (before the Chelsea - Man U Match) were on 11 and there on 4.

Were never going to get through a whole season with out a few hick-ups, points dropped here and there, no team ever does...but beating the other top sides is THE key to winning the league.

And yes if we got beat by every team in the league except Man U, Chelsea and Arsenal we would be relegated, but that’s not going to happen though as were going to be at the top end (there or there a bouts) so the 6 point games come into effect.

So any one that thinks that a draw with Stoke makes last weeks match meaningless hopefully this has helped to spell it out for you
.....so GET A GRIP ON YOURSELVES.

[Red_Polo]

Sorry, I agree it's utterly ridiculous to say drawing with Stoke has undone the good work of beating the scum, but the idea of a 6-pointer is pretty ludicrous too - up there with that of away goals counting 2 in Europe. Stupid stock phrases made by and for dullards.

If we'd beaten Man Utd instead of them beating us on one occasion, we might well be 6 points better of with respect to them, but that doesn't apply to the rest of the league does it? You know, the table that matters. If we'd beat them home and away then as you point out we'd have been ahead of them, but the 12 point bull**** falls apart when you see we'd only have got 6 more points on the table and both Arsenal and Chelsea would have finished ahead of us.

Obviously certain fixtures are more of a sure-fire way of gaining ground in the title race than others because in beating your rivals you ensure that they stand still whilst you gain points, but I think we're all smart enough to get it without all this 12 point crap.

[Guest]

Drawing against Stoke 5 games into a season is nothing more than a nuisance.

[Ferrrrnando]

Stop chatting bollocks. If they win this, over the two games we have gained a point on them.

If we had drawn against them and beaten stoke. And if they had drawn with us and lost to Chelsea, it's the same situation. We've wasted a chance that we made ourselves.

[Guest]

Stop chatting bollocks. If they win this, over the two games we have gained a point on them.

If we had drawn against them and beaten stoke. And if they had drawn with us and lost to Chelsea, it's the same situation. We've wasted a chance that we made ourselves.

This is all irrelevant if you ask me. Arsenal lost a game at the start of the season yet they're top of the league.

[The_weatherman]

The game drew, we lost two points, dominated and created chances just didn't take them, **** happens. Nothing we can do about it but hoping the team uses this as a motivation.

[fred_plasticine]

The game drew, we lost two points, dominated and created chances just didn't take them, **** happens. Nothing we can do about it but hoping the team uses this as a motivation.

both keane and torres had chances to score but look short of confidence and rosty respectively at the moment. besides our long shots were woeful today.

[Nicey]

Drawing against Stoke 5 games into a season is nothing more than a nuisance.

As always spot on ...

[Nick77]

Man U finished 0n 87 points last season we finished on 76. If we had beaten Man U home and away we would have finished on the same points as them FACT as they would have 6 points less and we would have 6 points more, that being a 12 point difference out of just 2 games. So come the end of the season last weeks win will be worth 6 points (as long as were somewhere near the top!)

Also had we turned some of those stupid HOME draws into wins we would have beaten the Scum last season, REGARDLESS OF THE 2 LOSSES AGAINST THEM - FACT!

[Woobus]

Also had we turned some of those stupid HOME draws into wins we would have beaten the Scum last season, REGARDLESS OF THE 2 LOSSES AGAINST THEM - FACT!

You mean 6 of them?

[badpiggy]

As always spot on ...

[Guest]

[Sebastian Rooks]

Stop chatting bollocks. If they win this, over the two games we have gained a point on them.

If we had drawn against them and beaten stoke. And if they had drawn with us and lost to Chelsea, it's the same situation. We've wasted a chance that we made ourselves.

Yes but I'm not talking about drawing games.. I'm talking about the difference in winning and loosing these games and I'm saying beating the teams in the top four is the key to winning the league.

If you look at last years results against them :-

Liverpool 1- 1 Chelsea
Liverpool 1- 1 Arsenal
Liverpool 0- 1 Man Utd

Chelsea 0 - 0 Liverpool
Man U 3 - 0 Liverpool
Arsenal 1 - 1 Liverpool

And instead say we won 2 of the games against a top 3 side (applied it to each team on an individual basis) the points difference would look like this:-

Liverpool 81
Chelsea 81

Arsenal 81
Liverpool 80

Liverpool 82
Man UTD 81

I'm aware that Arsenal and Chelsea would have still finished ahead of us if we took all the points against Man U and applying this against Arsenal they still would have been ahead by 1 point. But thats missing the point(if you'll excuse the pun!)
What I'm saying is that at the end of the Season between the top 4 the difference between a win and a loss IS 6 points.
IF we start winning against the other top 3 sides instead of loosing/drawing we will win the league.

Beating Man U is a HUGE step, drawing to Stoke doesn't undo the significance of the win last week.

[Jack D Rips]

"What is the use of beating Man U when we can't even score a goal against Stoke?"

And the other favourite one they use

"These are the teams you need to be beating to win the league"

You know I get tired of hearing this type of thing, and yesterday I heard it all again.

"It makes last weeks win meaningless"... well actually your all wrong.

Games against any side who are COMPETING AT THE TOP of the table are worth 6 points this means games against Man U, Chelsea and Arsenal are worth 6 points AGAINST THESE TEAMS
I always hear people saying " NO you still only get 3 points..." Well that’s rubbish because effectively there worth 6.

Man U finished 0n 87 points last season we finished on 76. If we had beaten Man U home and away we would have finished one point ahead of them FACT as they would have 6 points less and we would have 6 points more, that being a 12 point difference out of just 2 games. So come the end of the season last weeks win will be worth 6 points (as long as were somewhere near the top!)

If Man U had beaten us last week we would now be on 8 points and they'd be on 7... but as it stands (before the Chelsea - Man U Match) were on 11 and there on 4.

Were never going to get through a whole season with out a few hick-ups, points dropped here and there, no team ever does...but beating the other top sides is THE key to winning the league.

And yes if we got beat by every team in the league except Man U, Chelsea and Arsenal we would be relegated, but that’s not going to happen though as were going to be at the top end (there or there a bouts) so the 6 point games come into effect.

So any one that thinks that a draw with Stoke makes last weeks match meaningless hopefully this has helped to spell it out for you
.....so GET A GRIP ON YOURSELVES.

And Chelsea would have won the leaue.

Bull****. yes we need a better record against the top teams but we also have to have the ability to win the homebankers

[Fivex]

All ifs and buts if you ask me