Another Andy Gray Thread

[Craig_H]

its true but nobody ever says they are **** at defending set pieces because of man to man marking do they!!

Setanta's pundits did make a point of how poor arsenal are at defending set pieces. They didnt put it down to man-to-man marking though.

And i dont think it's down to it either, Arsenal are just poor at that aspect of the game. If they defended zones, i still think they'd be rubbish at defending set pieces.

he did. about 15 mins in, we had a free kick/corner, cant remember and he said something like "what everton need to do now is pick up a man each and man mark them" a sly dig if you ask me

You really think so? It sounds awfully paranoid to me. It's not radical to suggest that what Everton DID indeed need to do was pick up a man each and mark them.

I think we're reading too much into it myself.

[nbryan1764]

Setanta's pundits did make a point of how poor arsenal are at defending set pieces. They didnt put it down to man-to-man marking though.

And i dont think it's down to it either, Arsenal are just poor at that aspect of the game. If they defended zones, i still think they'd be rubbish at defending set pieces.



You really think so? It sounds awfully paranoid to me. It's not radical to suggest that what Everton DID indeed need to do was pick up a man each and mark them.

I think we're reading too much into it myself.

no its not. I agree its not down to either but when we (rarely) let a set piece goal then its not down to zonal marking either

[Craig_H]

no its not. I agree its not down to either but when we (rarely) let a set piece goal then its not down to zonal marking either

I think, with the nature of zonal marking, sometimes you WILL get goals conceded because of it. If you're competing from a standing start, against someone who has a running jump on you, it makes it harder. But that can happen even if you're not zonal marking.

The focus of pundits has been too heavily focused on ZM in my view and sometimes, you just concede because it was a great ball and the striker met it well and finished beautifully. So yes, to put it down to ZM every single time, as often happens, is somewhat lazy. It's an easy conclusion to make, so they go for it every time, which is daft.

[Parm]

It could be that we a starting to look the deal now and we are getting a bit of praise for it.

nah you're imagining that fella, the press still have us down as funcitonal and missing that extra bit of quality.

[kingfunk]

Today was the first game in recent memory during which he didn't mention zonal marking, even once ..... so maybe you have a point there

He did at least once!! When cahill fluffed his shot Grey said,, zonal marking or not, somebody should be marking/picking up Cahill!!

[MrMichael]

Ok, ok, maybe I auto-tune out when I hear his voice or something

Well he didn't mention it as often as usual, that's progress anyway!

[Johnny]

Ok, ok, maybe I auto-tune out when I hear his voice or something

Well he didn't mention it as often as usual, that's progress anyway!

He`ll always be a cunt.

[bobbyfallon]

He`ll always be a cunt.

excellent use of the word cunt there johnny

[Darth Marty]

He`ll always be a cunt.

agreed. Always.

[JermainePennant]

Not the usual though.

Is it me, or is he really softenning his stance towards us?

He's covered a couple of our games this season and I think he's actually sounding biased towards us. Most surprisingly, even when playing Everton.

It could be that he has had enough of Man Utd and Chelsea, and it could be that he sees us as the only other legitimate contenders, but I definitely detect a swing from his previous views.

He's still a complete cunt though.

I think all the andy gray stuff was bollocks anyway, people were complaining that he didnt lavish us with praise when we beat a ten man inter who still had more chances then us the game he was talking about.I think the guy talks sense and some liverpool fans are too sensitive.

[-V-]

Its ****ing Richard Keys and his bull**** that i cant stand. Every game

[saj]

I'm 100% for Zonal marking. I hate man marking as it's easier for the opponent to spin away from you.

[Helios Creed]

Not the usual though.

Is it me, or is he really softenning his stance towards us?

He's covered a couple of our games this season and I think he's actually sounding biased towards us. Most surprisingly, even when playing Everton.

It could be that he has had enough of Man Utd and Chelsea, and it could be that he sees us as the only other legitimate contenders, but I definitely detect a swing from his previous views.

He's still a complete cunt though.

i think we're just playing better.

[dom9]

Ok, ok, maybe I auto-tune out when I hear his voice or something

Well he didn't mention it as often as usual, that's progress anyway!

He even said on more than one occasion that our is a formidable defence, and that it doesn't concede many from set pieces.

He didn't mention the zonal system directly, and he still can't bring himself to say he might have been wrong on that though.

[Robbie-9-Fowler]

who cares