Sack Rafa, Fergie, Scolari and Wenger

[Darkon]

Football is a game of opinions and imo I don't believe he has what it takes to win us the Premiership.

Yeah, if only football was a game of 22 men and 1 ball with the goal of getting more points than your opponents, then we might have a chance of winning the title.

To bad it is a game of opinions

[dww]

He hasnt rotated anywhere NEAR as much as last season.

First 9 games this season - 14 unenforced changes.
First 9 games last season - 41 unenforced changes.

That's the facts mate.

Where did you get those stats from?

[Scratch]

Where did you get those stats from?

Plus do you have the ones for the subsequent 9 games?

[Craig_H]

Where did you get those stats from?

As sad as it is, i researched them myself via the official site, at around October time.

[rudedog]

He hasnt rotated anywhere NEAR as much as last season.

First 9 games this season - 14 unenforced changes.
First 9 games last season - 41 unenforced changes.

That's the facts mate.

That interesting but a pretty small sample size.

We've played 27 competative games in total this season - can you give me the numbers for the first 27 games of last season vs this seasons tally?

[Craig_H]

That interesting but a pretty small sample size.

We've played 27 competative games in total this season - can you give me the numbers for the first 27 games of last season vs this seasons tally?

Do it yourself

When i did the research, we'd only played 9 competitive games (not including the Carling Cup).

[Sarb]

Well you cant have it both ways.

I think it's better not to rest them in the early stages, build up a lead and then in the latter stages of the league, you're in a position to win it so adrenalin and passion drives you through the remainder of the games.

If we'd been 9 points clear now, as we should be, this theory would be set up nicely.

Good point

I think it's better to not rest them in early games, rather than playing for 1-0 wins to beat teams convincingly and take our chances and then rest players in the last 15 mins or so of matches

[Craig_H]

I was talking about early stages of the league campaign, rather than individual matches.

[Sarb]

Of course you want to play your best team game in game out especially at the beginning of the season

All I was saying is that I'm not convinced we'll finish the season as strongly as we have done in past seasons for that same reason

[rage]

i'm looking forward to seeing this finishing the season strongly put to the test when we have something to actually play for.

[rudedog]

i'm looking forward to seeing this finishing the season strongly put to the test when we have something to actually play for.

thats a very valid point

[Skillz]

So am I as long as Torres is fit. We might start playing more to our full potential.

[Guest]

It would have been a bit far fetched to have expected us to be 9 points clear at the top. There's nothing which separates us with Chelsea and Man Utd ... albeit very fine margins. So again, I think the table doesn't lie.

[bipjohn]

I find myself being driven mad at this point looking at this and many other forums and seeing what they have decended into.

Listening to kn0bs calling in to phone in's wanting Rafa out, Rafa this Rafa that.

Has anyone come up with a viable, avaliable, realistic alternative to one of European Footballs most successful managers over the last 5 years?

Please.....tell me, who do you all think could replace him?

Curbishley?

I find myself appaled at 'Supporters' audible booing at Liverpool players, and yes this has also happened in the past, We have had a scapegoat in every team, Kevin MacDonald, Ray Houghton to an extent, Don Hutchison, Danny Murphy, Harry Kewell and now Lucas. Some of them you could argue have been justified, others not. But you know what, not one of those and the many others got better by being booed.

The 'supporters' (yes, in inverted commers) on here who are moaning and moaning, you know who you are, did you watch us in the 90's? Did you watch Kozma? Did you watch Stewart, Dicks, Ruddock, Collymore, who didnt give a toss about the Red shirt? Did you watch Piechnik, Tanner, Hooper, Kvarme, Jimmy Carter; who simply werent good enough?

Nobody has the same opinion, thats what its all about.
Babel to some should start more, some say he shouldnt
Keane, to me personally should do his talking by playing football when he is on instead of constantly gesturing and moaning.
Riera, some think hes good others think hes crap.

I really belive that we have 4, possibly 5 world class players on our team right now. We have potentially 3 or 4 others who can be good enough on their day.

The point Im trying to make is that you cant please everyone. Rafa has the benefit of seeing players for 5 or 6 days a week, wathicng them train seeing there attitude on the training pitch and making his decisions from that, nobody here has that.

I know we have dropped too many points at home, and yes, we might regret it, but when did the last team, and I include Liverpool great 70s and 80s sides every win 38/38 games or 42/42 as it was then? When did that happen? Can anyone quote the season?

Its a 100% given fact, we have no divine right to win every game, neither will we. The other undeniable fact is that we are top, and whilst our failings have been at home, others have failed in other areas. Its down to very fine margins, poor refereeing against Stoke, unlucky against West Ham (I know Bellamy could have scored, but we dominated) unlucky against Hull (Brown complained about our goal-I say he was lucky for the OG because JC certainly did not commit a foul in the lead-up).

We can win this title, but we have to collectivly get behind them, not question them. Every time you boo, you go on a phone in and question it adds ammunition to the tossers like Collymore, Gray etc who take great delight in adding to the pressure and critisising more.

Anyhow, pick my thread to pieces, have a go at me, tell me Im deluded and looking through Rafa tinted specs and you know what, I actually dont care in the slightest what a gang of WUM's think on internet forum.

What I do know is I am Liverpool Football Club through and through, think and thin, wind and rain-you know the words in OUR SONG, I have been a seaon ticket holder for 15 years and gone to matches for 20+ home and away, abroad more times than I can remember frendlies and all. I saw us 3-0 down at home to chesterfield...I believed, I saw us 3-0 down in istabul and I believed, I saw us snatch FA Cups from Arsenal and W Ham, and I saw us get through tragedies other clubs will never and have never had to endure. This is Liverpool Football Club, we are not like any other, we are privileged to be part of it. and you know what I dont care what anyone thinks, THIS IS MY TEAM and I WILL 'SUPPORT' it to the very end, and I WILL BELIEVE until its mathematically possible in the manager and the players that we CAN WIN IT THIS YEAR.

[Reece]

I'm sure some will try and pick your post apart john, but for me it's one of the best I've read on here for ages. Post more