Why are we so negative?

[Craig_H]

Yeah and we are the only team not to lose at home in the league in 2008

They have lost twice, in games they'd expect to win and they certainly would have expected to beat Spurs under Ramos.
Notice you don't mention West Ham.

I dont mention WHU because they're ****e and should've been beaten by Chelsea and us. Not sure what your point is there.

They've lost twice. Let's see if we're still unbeaten after we face them again and Arsenal too. It's relatively easy to remain unbeaten in games against WHU, Wigan, Boro, Stoke, Hull, Fulham etc. Being unbeaten against ****e sides isnt something to celebrate, for me.

[Craig_H]

Regardless of dropping points to us, Man Utd and Arsenal, they've still drawn against three teams they will think they should have beat - Spurs, Newcaste and West Ham.

I find it hard to see how you can continue to ignore this.

I'm not 'ignoring' it, they were poor points to drop at home. I think Spurs and Newcastle are better than Hull and Stoke, mind.

It's a pointless debate really, i dont think 4 draws from 9 home games (given who we've played) is good enough. Some people think it is.

Each to their own. Let's just leave it at that, i'm bored of debate the same point. I think we should expect to beat the likes of Stoke and Hull at Anfield. Apparently some disagree and that's all there is to it.

[Mattshark]

I dont mention WHU because they're ****e and should've been beaten by Chelsea and us. Not sure what your point is there.

They've lost twice. Let's see if we're still unbeaten after we face them again and Arsenal too. It's relatively easy to remain unbeaten in games against WHU, Wigan, Boro, Stoke, Hull, Fulham etc. Being unbeaten against ****e sides isnt something to celebrate, for me.

Oh I'm sorry that was you argument for complaining about us.

So why again is it not the point?

Don't you want to acknowledge that fact that only one team has beaten us in the league at Anfield in the last 2 and a half seasons and we have beat them at Anfield this season?

[Mattshark]

I'm not 'ignoring' it, they were poor points to drop at home. I think Spurs and Newcastle are better than Hull and Stoke, mind.

It's a pointless debate really, i dont think 4 draws from 9 home games (given who we've played) is good enough. Some people think it is.

Each to their own. Let's just leave it at that, i'm bored of debate the same point. I think we should expect to beat the likes of Stoke and Hull at Anfield. Apparently some disagree and that's all there is to it.

The league table and Hull beating both of these sides (away as well I think for both) would disagree with you there.

[Craig_H]

Oh I'm sorry that was you argument for complaining about us.

So why again is it not the point?

Don't you want to acknowledge that fact that only one team has beaten us in the league at Anfield in the last 2 and a half seasons and we have beat them at Anfield this season?

What are you actually on about lad? Dont want to acknowledge? How am i not acknowledging it?

I think we should beat teams like Hull, Stoke, WHU and Fulham at anfield.

Whatever you say, that's my opinion and i'm entitled to it. You're entitled to yours, so let's just accept the disagreement and leave it there.

[Craig_H]

The league table and Hull beating both of these sides (away as well I think for both) would disagree with you there.

Couldnt give a monkeys if Hull are doing well (BY THE STANDARDS OF A NEWLY PROMOTED SIDE), i (and the majority of people) think we should beat them at Anfield. Why were we 1/5?

Did you go into the Hull game expecting a draw, or thinking it would be a decent result?

[Leyton388]

Apart from hull who come at us from kick off we have real trouble braking down the lesser teams who come to Anfield and park the bus. We need a flair player who can turn a moment of skill into a winning position.

[Mattshark]

Apart from hull who come at us from kick off we have real trouble braking down the lesser teams who come to Anfield and park the bus. We need a flair player who can turn a moment of skill into a winning position.

I'd agree with that.

[Craig_H]

Lucky i didnt say it then, eh Matt?

[Mattshark]

Couldnt give a monkeys if Hull are doing well (BY THE STANDARDS OF A NEWLY PROMOTED SIDE), i (and the majority of people) think we should beat them at Anfield. Why were we 1/5?

Did you go into the Hull game expecting a draw, or thinking it would be a decent result?

That is not the point. The point is there is no reason to believe that Newcastle or Spurs are better than Hull. Which there is not so How are Chelsea at home different to us again? Except we have more points and haven't lost.

[Craig_H]

that is not the point. The point is there is no reason to believe that newcastle or spurs are better than hull. Which there is not so how are chelsea at home different to us again? Except we have more points and haven't lost.

it is my opinion that newcastle and spurs are better than hull. Deal with it.

[red g]

We should have a better home record, as Should chelsea.....and although Chelsea's are against better teams, we have problems with lesser teams....so when the better teams come, they wont park the bus and we can batter them

[rudedog]

I'm not 'ignoring' it, they were poor points to drop at home. I think Spurs and Newcastle are better than Hull and Stoke, mind.

It's a pointless debate really, i dont think 4 draws from 9 home games (given who we've played) is good enough. Some people think it is.

Each to their own. Let's just leave it at that, i'm bored of debate the same point. I think we should expect to beat the likes of Stoke and Hull at Anfield. Apparently some disagree and that's all there is to it.

What? who says its ok to draw against Stoke and Hull at Anfield? Your making stuff up now Craig - you did the same thing last night and to be honest, its making you look a bit daft lad.

[Craig_H]

Well all i've said mate, is that those results are not good enough and it's not ok to be drawing so many games like that. If people agree with me, then there's no argument.

[Leyton388]

After seeing the **** of the 90's and the end of the Houllier days i think old habits die hard.