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Liverpool manager makes personal call to reassure beleaguered captain
By Ian Herbert
Wednesday, 31 December 2008
Steven Gerrard is expected back in training with Liverpool today but has already been offered personal reassurances by manager Rafael Benitez despite being charged with assault and affray after a nightclub brawl.
Gerrard and Benitez spoke briefly by telephone yesterday morning and, though Liverpool were keen to avoid any impression that they are pre-judging legal proceedings, the knowledge that the club captain will not face orders to explain himself in the manager's office at Melwood will come as a major boost to a player who spent yesterday at his home in Formby, coming to terms with what had unfolded at a Southport restaurant-bar in the early hours of Monday morning.
Benitez contacted Gerrard from his own home, where he is recovering from kidney stones surgery, and sanctioned Liverpool's early and unequivocal pledge of support for their captain. "He has been an outstanding servant to Liverpool for the last 10 years and the club will give him all the support he needs at this time," a statement read.
It is understood that one of those Gerrard might be able to call on, should he choose when the case comes to court, is the former Anfield legend Kenny Dalglish, who lives in Southport. Gerrard apparently encountered Dalglish and his wife Marina at the Lounge Inn 15 minutes before the fracas occurred there and the three are understood to have had a calm discussion about Mrs Dalglish's breast cancer charity.
Gerrard was not in breach of a curfew when he headed off for an evening out in his favoured evening location of Southport after flying home from the 5-1 victory at Newcastle. The players had been granted Monday and yesterday off and if, as had always seemed possible, Gerrard misses Saturday's FA Cup third round tie with Preston, he could have assumed it would be 13 days until his next competitive match.
Only if Gerrard is adjudged to have played an active part in any attack is a jail sentence a realistic prospect for an individual with no previous convictions – despite yesterday's internet talk of five-year jail terms, the maximum tariff for the alleged offence in question.
The Football Association has rejected suggestions that it might already be taking an active interest. It will reserve any judgement until the outcome of a trial. That goes for Liverpool, too, though the club were taking what comfort they could from the photographs of Gerrard taken throughout the evening and the 28-year-old's decision to buy a stranger a birthday bottle of champagne – proof, the club hopes, that Gerrard acquitted himself sensibly.
The Gerrard camp said he was anxious to get back to training, having spent yesterday with his wife, Alex Curren, and their children Lilly-Ella and Lexie. His long stint in the cells at Southport police station was attributable to the fact that interviews did not begin until 2.30pm on Tuesday, concluding three hours later.
The 28-year-old, along with two men from his home district of Huyton, will answer assault and affray charges before North Sefton magistrates in Southport on 23 January, four days before the Merseyside derby. A further two men - Ron Dixon of Huyton, and Terry Sullivan also of Huyton - were released on police bail pending further inquiries, along with the Accrington Stanley winger Bobby Grant, from Litherland (pictured below).
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Assault
There are different levels of assault
Section 39 (normally known as common assault) this is were no or little injury is caused - a push, a slap or even a weak punch would fall into this catagorie.
Section 47 (normally known as Actual Bodily Harm or ABH for short) this is were some form of none serious injury is caused such as heavy bruising, small cuts, grazes.
Section 20 ( normally known as Grevious Bodily harm, or GBH, without intent ). This is when the injury is more serious - broken bones, more serious cuts (not sure exactly but I think it is when 9 or more stitches are required) - the main thing with this offence is that it is used when it is thought that there was no intent to cause this level of injury (no weapons used)
Section 18 (normally known as Greivious Bodily Harm, or GBH, with intent. This when the injury is at the same level as a secton 20 assault but were it is believed that there was intent to cause this level of injury ie when weapons are used. Anything from glassing someone, stabbing, beaten with a bat, hammer etc.
These are all assaults but just at different levels. Gerrard being charged with ABH makes me think the Police either can't proove he caused the broken tooth or that he hasn't caused the broken tooth, if they did he would have been charged with GBH.
Regarding the court case, this willl go to court, it is a criminal proceeding and as such can not be settled out of court. It is not possible to pay someone off. It may not go to trial - but this would be dependant on Gerrard pleading guilty at first appearance. In this instance it would go straight to sentencing.
The time to worry is if the sentencing part of the case went to Crown. Magistrates can only sentence up to 6 months imprisonment. If the sentencing part of the case went to Crown then hes in real trouble.
So it will rest on 'intent'. No one is allowed to mention that two minutes earlier someone had called the DJ "Sydney"
I can see the Blue****e coming up with some blinders for that one.
Hopefully they can come up with something witty, first time for everything I suppose! Though it'll be something like him being raped in prison no doubt.
Liverpool manager makes personal call to reassure beleaguered captain
By Ian Herbert
Wednesday, 31 December 2008
Steven Gerrard is expected back in training with Liverpool today but has already been offered personal reassurances by manager Rafael Benitez despite being charged with assault and affray after a nightclub brawl.
Gerrard and Benitez spoke briefly by telephone yesterday morning and, though Liverpool were keen to avoid any impression that they are pre-judging legal proceedings, the knowledge that the club captain will not face orders to explain himself in the manager's office at Melwood will come as a major boost to a player who spent yesterday at his home in Formby, coming to terms with what had unfolded at a Southport restaurant-bar in the early hours of Monday morning.
Benitez contacted Gerrard from his own home, where he is recovering from kidney stones surgery, and sanctioned Liverpool's early and unequivocal pledge of support for their captain. "He has been an outstanding servant to Liverpool for the last 10 years and the club will give him all the support he needs at this time," a statement read.
It is understood that one of those Gerrard might be able to call on, should he choose when the case comes to court, is the former Anfield legend Kenny Dalglish, who lives in Southport. Gerrard apparently encountered Dalglish and his wife Marina at the Lounge Inn 15 minutes before the fracas occurred there and the three are understood to have had a calm discussion about Mrs Dalglish's breast cancer charity.
Gerrard was not in breach of a curfew when he headed off for an evening out in his favoured evening location of Southport after flying home from the 5-1 victory at Newcastle. The players had been granted Monday and yesterday off and if, as had always seemed possible, Gerrard misses Saturday's FA Cup third round tie with Preston, he could have assumed it would be 13 days until his next competitive match.
Only if Gerrard is adjudged to have played an active part in any attack is a jail sentence a realistic prospect for an individual with no previous convictions – despite yesterday's internet talk of five-year jail terms, the maximum tariff for the alleged offence in question.
The Football Association has rejected suggestions that it might already be taking an active interest. It will reserve any judgement until the outcome of a trial. That goes for Liverpool, too, though the club were taking what comfort they could from the photographs of Gerrard taken throughout the evening and the 28-year-old's decision to buy a stranger a birthday bottle of champagne – proof, the club hopes, that Gerrard acquitted himself sensibly.
The Gerrard camp said he was anxious to get back to training, having spent yesterday with his wife, Alex Curren, and their children Lilly-Ella and Lexie. His long stint in the cells at Southport police station was attributable to the fact that interviews did not begin until 2.30pm on Tuesday, concluding three hours later.
The 28-year-old, along with two men from his home district of Huyton, will answer assault and affray charges before North Sefton magistrates in Southport on 23 January, four days before the Merseyside derby. A further two men - Ron Dixon of Huyton, and Terry Sullivan also of Huyton - were released on police bail pending further inquiries, along with the Accrington Stanley winger Bobby Grant, from Litherland (pictured below).
IMO this will make sod all difference to the life of Stevie G as a Liverpool football player.
Worst case scenario (In all reality) is this:
1. A suspended sentence and community service with the obligatory crap fine.
2. LFC strip him of the Catains armband
3. He gets a bit more stick than ususal
4. He looses a few sponsorship deals
5. England live up to the promise they made of not picking players who got into bother.
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A more realsitic view of future events is that he gets away with it scot free, he quite obviously was not drunk, quite obviously is not a thug in general terms, and quite obviously hangs around with enough mates who can sort out any bother that would come his way without Ste G getting involved.
The 28-year-old, along with two men from his home district of Huyton, will answer assault and affray charges before North Sefton magistrates in Southport on 23 January, four days before the Merseyside derby. A further two men - Ron Dixon of Huyton, and Terry Sullivan also of Huyton - were released on police bail pending further inquiries, along with the Accrington Stanley winger Bobby Grant, from Litherland (pictured below).
Seen a picture of the bloke he hit .. I have to say he looks like an utter **** ... thats all
Where you see that nicey?
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'Football is a simple game based on the giving and taking of passes, of controlling the ball and of making yourself available to receive a pass. It is terribly simple.'
no matter what he "looks like" you dont bottle or glass someone imo
Even if looks like Gary Neville?
Quite tempting!
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'Football is a simple game based on the giving and taking of passes, of controlling the ball and of making yourself available to receive a pass. It is terribly simple.'
i know someone who went on holiday with him said he is an annoying sort but as i say you dont bottle or glass anyone
Who, Neville or the Dj?
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'Football is a simple game based on the giving and taking of passes, of controlling the ball and of making yourself available to receive a pass. It is terribly simple.'
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