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    #61
    Originally posted by dww View Post
    In retrospect I think he showed last season that he could do limited things very well. But we already knew that. He was best as an impact sub and when we play well his pace can worry teams but the same was true of Cisse and he went as he couldn't offer enough to the team in the long term.

    He is young and might progress but the worry is that his problems are mental - which IMO is the hardest part of a player to develop. A loan would be pointless as he wouldn't be at a club with the same level of coaching or players around him and it is in that context he needs to improve his game. He deserves more games before we as fans write him off IMO but at the same time from what I have seen I wouldn't be upset if Rafa decided having seen him in training as well that he should leave.


    I watched the Preston game again last night and he just doesn't look sharp enough atm, as if the rest of the team are thinking 3-4 passes ahead and he's thinking only 1 or 2..it mustn't be easy coming into the team atm though, the whole squad has taken time to get to this level
    Sack swinging like Dub-D40 on a door hinge

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      #62
      Originally posted by Neil Young View Post
      That's fair comment. In my lust for the superficial I'd missed the import of the moment Of all my failings it's my biggest.

      As both the definitive and transfigurative figure of all humanity, Babel shoulders a heavy burden and, in anyone's language, we can only hope he is a tower of strength.
      You are getting confused old man , it is Torres that is the tower of strength.

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        #63
        Originally posted by pablo1981 View Post
        You are getting confused old man , it is Torres that is the tower of strength.


        Are you quite sure?

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        Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



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          #64
          Originally posted by dww View Post
          In retrospect I think he showed last season that he could do limited things very well. But we already knew that. He was best as an impact sub and when we play well his pace can worry teams but the same was true of Cisse and he went as he couldn't offer enough to the team in the long term.

          He is young and might progress but the worry is that his problems are mental - which IMO is the hardest part of a player to develop. A loan would be pointless as he wouldn't be at a club with the same level of coaching or players around him and it is in that context he needs to improve his game. He deserves more games before we as fans write him off IMO but at the same time from what I have seen I wouldn't be upset if Rafa decided having seen him in training as well that he should leave.
          Originally posted by wiw View Post


          I watched the Preston game again last night and he just doesn't look sharp enough atm, as if the rest of the team are thinking 3-4 passes ahead and he's thinking only 1 or 2..it mustn't be easy coming into the team atm though, the whole squad has taken time to get to this level
          I am thinking that the lack of a pre-season has affected him more than people are taking into account, personally I think that players that don't get a proper pre-season behind them tend to struggle, for me this is part of the problem we are seeing now.

          Also I think he's lacking in confidence, for me a spell either in the reserves or on loan might boost his confidence, he might not be working with the same players but it would give him a chance to get his head straight and give his confidence a lift
          The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.

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            #65
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            Last edited by Kloppster; 06-01-09, 05:52 PM. Reason: beat me to it
            'and boy could he play!.

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              #66
              Originally posted by Exiled_red View Post
              I am thinking that the lack of a pre-season has affected him more than people are taking into account, personally I think that players that don't get a proper pre-season behind them tend to struggle, for me this is part of the problem we are seeing now.

              Also I think he's lacking in confidence, for me a spell either in the reserves or on loan might boost his confidence, he might not be working with the same players but it would give him a chance to get his head straight and give his confidence a lift
              Your points make sense, but I could see a spell in the reserves really demoting him ... and I don't want to loan him out as he could still have a big impact over the second half of the season, if he can just get his head right.
              I'm playing all the right notes. Not necessarily in the right order. I'll give you that, sunshine.

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                #67
                Originally posted by Neil Young View Post
                For me it captured the essential paradox of life - that to live is, some day, to die. The explosion of joy at scoring a goal (an obvious simulacrum for both the pain and glory of birth and the ecstasy of orgasm, itself a pre-manifestation of the rite of birth that it presages) is at once and forever tainted by the meaningless of the goal (or, so clearly in a post-existentialist world where the numbness of death is both a daily reality and yet also a frightening secret we withhold from ourselves, life) itself. Beating Newcastle 5-1 is both satisfying and hollow and in Babel's over-celebration of the then important but ultimately futile second goal we see both its apogee and apotheosis.
                Didn't he score the 3rd goal?

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Maxiedge View Post
                  You know, I started a legendary thread last season entitled "The Enigma that is Xabi Alonso".
                  No you ****ing didn't! I did!
                  Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by JHP View Post
                    Didn't he score the 3rd goal?
                    I wondered that when I put it but couldn't be bothered to check - still can't to be honest. Thanks though for being the only person to read my post attentively.

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                    Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



                    May the Lord bless this post.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by ShaggyAlonso View Post
                      No you ****ing didn't! I did!
                      Alright, alright. There's no need to show off about it

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                        #71
                        Originally posted by Maxiedge View Post
                        Alright, alright. There's no need to show off about it
                        It's all part of the enigma that is Shaggy Alonso.
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                        Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



                        May the Lord bless this post.

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