What now for Parry...and Rafa?

[le2red]

As already mentioned, Ian Ayre will take over from Parry when he goes. The old guard, who are frightened of change are already on their way out. Les Wheater has gone and been replaced by Philip Nash. When Parry goes we can start to beef up the commercial side of the club, something that has been needed for at least 10 years.

[Red_Polo]

Do you mean Les Wheatley?

I'd love to see Parry replaced by someone with a bit more nous but I'm not sure how soon we can really expect it to happen - there's a deadlock at the top that needs to be broken first, surely?

[checkpoint]

Yeah, all he'll need is a light sabre and he'll be fine!

We had people who knew 'The Liverpool Way' running the club for a long time. Moores knew 'The Liverpool Way' and he and his directors spent 15 years discussing a new stadium and got nowhere, they failed to take advantage of how well Liverpool were known all over the world in developing the commercial side of the club whilst we were forced to watch Man Ure going from strength to strength.

Now I'm not defending the yanks in any way, they are a complete joke, but at least they recognise how the business side of the club needs to change, whoever comes in to replace them needs to carry on with what they started, but pay the bills and keep quiet, that was one of the few things Moores did right, he didn't talk to the press.

Well, if you put forward some of the short comings of Liverpool Football Club
(the lack of buliding a stadium for instance) and call that 'The Liverpool Way',
then I suggest you do a little research before posting.
Or read the book by a certain Jamie Carragher. The sence of dignity, desire, pride and being a club that actually means something to both the locals AND a 36 year old norwegian miles away, based on somthing MOORE than just silverware and the bank balance.

I know it's diffucult to have it both ways, but there is nothing wrong with exploiting thefull potential of the 'brand' and at the same time try to uphold some of the values thathas always been connected to the club. Some values that has made supporters worldwide get a special relationship with a club that has had it's fair share of barren years trophywise. Valuesthat makes club a bit more worhty winners because it's achieved in a certain way.

If you think for one minute that the fact that the yanks 'recognise how the business side of the club' would benefit anything else than their own pockets rather than the club, you are wrong. Therefore, anybusiness advantages they have won't benefit the club in the large extent that we would like.

And as a 'guardian' of the values I've mentioned, I see Dalglish as a perfect man.

Again, just my partially romantic opinion, but it seems you know A LOT about running OUR club so....

[ukfootballfan101]

The strange thing is Ian Ayre is supposed to be running the commercial side of the club (he's already done quite a few good deals for us, brought in around £10m) but with Rafa's new contract Parry is supposed to be taking a step back from the football side to focus on the commerical side...

[BG1973]

Sorry, meant 'sold' not 'signed

that makes more sense.

But....why the hell would you freeze a player like Keane out and then sell him with a third of the season to go with no backup? If you don't fancy him as a player then fine, move him on in the summer but to leave us short at this stage seems crazy unless you are fighting another longer term battle.

If Rafa gets his way I for one will be very happy. The thought of someone like Parry deciding our transfer priorities is frightening.

[the rev leeroy brown]

If Rafa gets his way I for one will be very happy. The thought of someone like Parry deciding our transfer priorities is frightening.

without raising an old arguement on here.......if it wasn't for parry we wouldn't have alonso right now. we'd have that ****ebag barry. the thought of that is more frightening!!!

[FatTony]

So who to replace Parry? David Dein?

[the rev leeroy brown]

see below

[the rev leeroy brown]

i'd rather have......

[calvoboy]

Rafa is a ruthless mother****er. He has sanctioned this purely to screw Parry over and get the control he has craved since Valencia. How many other managers would have the balls to engineer this? I am sure in other circumstances Rafa would never sell a striker halfway through the season but he appear to see it as a sacrifice worth making if ultimately he gets what he wants.

Such an interesting scenario. He is in a way benefitting from the ****ehouse owners. They will do anything to appease the fans and if they think that means backing Rafa then they appear to be prepared to do anything.

Expect Rafa's contract signed within days. Expect Parry to be gone in the summer..

I don't think so. I think that the battle for control is over the fact that he saw Keane as being pointless on his own. He had an idea of selling Alonso, buying Barry to play on the left, buying Keane to play behind Torres, and moving Gerrard alongside Mascher. So you sell one top class player to bring two in that will improve the balance of the squad.

If you don't sign Barry though (and sell Alonso to raise the necessary cash) then there's no point buying Keane. He went through Parry, giving him a list of targets as instructed, and Parry did 1/3 of the job and wasted 20m, that Rafa would have spent elsewhere if he'd known that Barry wasn't coming and Alonso wasn't going.

It's not about having total control, it's about the manager making the decisions about who comes and goes within a budget, rather than giving someone who has no idea about the balance of a squad, and the tactics the manager has in mind, complete control over buying and selling from a shortlist. Rafa's new deal will still involve him approving all purchases through the board, it will just give him a more hands on role, so that he doesn't end up with square pegs to fit into round holes if all the deals don't go as planned.

Keane wasn't sold because Rafa wants to prove a petty point. He was sold because in our best system of play it comes down to a choice between him and Gerrard, and there's only one winner. Also because he's not performed when he's been given his chance in any case. He'd never play on his own up front, so it's not as if he was ever really a back up for Torres anyway. The only way his going will impact on us is if we have two or three injuries amongst our attacking players, including Torres, or if he scores the winner against us on the last day of the season.

[ukfootballfan101]

Well, if you put forward some of the short comings of Liverpool Football Club
(the lack of buliding a stadium for instance) and call that 'The Liverpool Way',
then I suggest you do a little research before posting.
Or read the book by a certain Jamie Carragher. The sence of dignity, desire, pride and being a club that actually means something to both the locals AND a 36 year old norwegian miles away, based on somthing MOORE than just silverware and the bank balance.

I know it's diffucult to have it both ways, but there is nothing wrong with exploiting thefull potential of the 'brand' and at the same time try to uphold some of the values thathas always been connected to the club. Some values that has made supporters worldwide get a special relationship with a club that has had it's fair share of barren years trophywise. Valuesthat makes club a bit more worhty winners because it's achieved in a certain way.

If you think for one minute that the fact that the yanks 'recognise how the business side of the club' would benefit anything else than their own pockets rather than the club, you are wrong. Therefore, anybusiness advantages they have won't benefit the club in the large extent that we would like.

And as a 'guardian' of the values I've mentioned, I see Dalglish as a perfect man.

Again, just my partially romantic opinion, but it seems you know A LOT about running OUR club so....

You've mis-understood what I meant, Moores did understand the Liverpool way, the Yanks don't.

But Moores and his board of directors are the reason we're in the mess we're in now, they were driving the club into the ground, they had zero commercial sense they were happy to let things stay as they were always looking to the past never looking to the future.

When Houllier arrived they still had the rotting training equipment that shankly (I assume you know who he is) introduced in the early 60's, Houllier was the one who dragged the training ground out of the dark ages, but he shouldn't have had to.

But back on topic, we need people running the club who understand the values of the club but can also run it in such a way that there is money available to manager to buy the players we need to compete for the league and european cup.

With regard to Dalglish, I love the guy, he's the greatest player in our history but if he comes back he'll be nothing more than a distraction and a shadow over Rafa and any future manager. What if Rafa and King Kenny disagree over a potential signing? who should have the final say?

The past is important, it's what made LFC the club it is today and its what make's it so important to people and we should learn from it, but we need forward thinking people running the club.

IF we had to have a former player involved i'd pick Craig Johnston - if you don't know who he is, look him up. He's less high profile and he was/is involved in several businesses since retirement. He also raised loads of cash in Austraila for the Hillsborough Fund and flew back to attend funerals and memorial sevices.

And, don't take the p!55 out of me, I'm not some WUM, I have experience in business. AND for the yanks to "benefit their own pockets" as you put it the team needs to keep winning, which is what we all want. We just don't want all the BS that's come with them - thats what the new owners will have to learn from.

[kev776]

Why?? I don't understand why so many people want Dalglish to come back, he has no experience of running a football club, he hasn't left football and had a great success as a businessman. He's just a name. A huge figure in our history, but he isn't needed at the club.

I read that Rafa spoke with Moyes at Everton and he's after a similar deal to him, so all this stuff in the press about how Rafa wants something that not even wenger and fergie have is BS.

Ian Ayre to run the commercial side, Rafa to run the football side, Parry out.

The same guy responsible for "out of stock" all the time, in the on-line shop and the reason I walk into German sports shops and see row upon row of Chelsea/Manc/Arse shirts and when I ask about Liverpool they shrug their shoulders and say "we cant get them"

[Mattshark]

The same guy responsible for "out of stock" all the time, in the on-line shop and the reason I walk into German sports shops and see row upon row of Chelsea/Manc/Arse shirts and when I ask about Liverpool they shrug their shoulders and say "we cant get them"

To be fair though DisneyWorld only sells Liverpool and to a lesser extent Chelsea shirts. No Manc or Arse.

I did see Liverpool stuff in Gottingen and Kassel.

[dww]

To be fair though DisneyWorld only sells Liverpool and to a lesser extent Chelsea shirts. No Manc or Arse.

I did see Liverpool stuff in Gottingen and Kassel.

Didn't merchandise revenue hit record levels last year? They are clearly doing something right if so.

[Mattshark]

Didn't merchandise revenue hit record levels last year? They are clearly doing something right if so.

Aye and you know, we have Europe's biggest club shop.
My only issue with our merchandise is that small in our range is massive. We have weird sizing.