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    #16
    Rushie scored 4 goals in a game with concussion if I remember rightly, and one of those was chipping a 6 foot plus keeper from like, 8 yards. Aston Villa IIRC.

    Quality.

    EDIT: Ok, having seen it again, it might have been more like 12-13 yards. But it was John Lukic - he was a bloody big keeper!
    Last edited by Tatterdemalion; 09-02-09, 11:01 PM.
    Really?

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      #17
      Originally posted by rezaeos View Post
      Now this is going to be a tough one but I have a question to ask. How did the Rush/Dalglish scoring machine (at their peak in the 1980's) compare to Torres/Gerrad today? I think the Legends have the edge in the tag team department but Torres and Gerrad are more devastating overall; they seem to have to carry the team in helpless situations. The comparison is a hard one as the game is played at a much higher pace and is more physical. Also the 1980's team was made out of superb stars that appeared to work seamlessly.
      No it wasn't. Our most successful teams of the late 70’s and 80’s had few ‘world class’ stars but they did have great managers that could mould and motivate excellent teams. Unheard of talent would be spotted, thrown into the reserves for 12 months then introduced seamlessly into the first team.

      IMO the reason why we have never come close to winning the Premiership isn’t because of a lack of quality players and/or cash, it’s because we haven’t had a good enough manager.

      Regarding your original point Rush and Dalglish were a far better partnership than Torres and Gerrard.
      Another MASSIVE game

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        #18
        ****, we've had some amazing forwards down the years, we've been spoilt in many ways.

        Hunt, Toshack, Keegan, Dalglish, Rush, Fowler, Owen, Dundee, Torres.

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          #19
          Originally posted by fah-q View Post
          ****, we've had some amazing forwards down the years, we've been spoilt in many ways.

          Hunt, toshack, keegan, dalglish, rush, fowler, owen, dundee, torres.
          owen?!
          Really?

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            #20
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              #21
              Originally posted by Tatterdemalion View Post
              owen?!
              I wouldn't put him in the same class either.

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                #22
                Could Dalglish and Rush do what they did at the pace the game is at now? With a lighter ball? Better organised defences?

                Could they have scored the goal Gerrard/Torres did against Newcastle?
                Last edited by wiw; 10-02-09, 10:35 AM.
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                  #23
                  Dunno about Rush, but Dalglish had a huge arse and amazing vision. A terrifying combination, and something that no one in modern football seems to have. If only we had someone in our team now of his stature, we would already have the title sown up.
                  In the beginning, Fowler created the Heaven and the Earth.

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by wiw View Post
                    Could Dalglish and Rush do what they did at the pace the game is at now? With a lighter ball? Better organised defences?

                    Could they have scored the goal Gerrard/Torres did against Newcastle?
                    The game was certainly much slower then. I believe Dalglish would fair better just because of his technical abilities. Rush would have less space to work his magic.
                    Last edited by rezaeos; 11-02-09, 05:35 AM.

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                      #25
                      They were both great players and as there is no way to prove otherwise, I chose to believe they would have been succesful today as well
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                        #26
                        Ian Rush was a fantastic striker. He was clinical - put him through on goal, and he would score; he was a great team player and would be the first line of defence, hounding the opposition into mistakes, never allowing defenders time to settle on the ball - he had so much pace, he would close defenders down and force them to hoof; he was a very intelligent striker - he would time and angle his runs to perfection. Kenny and Rushy had a great understanding. Even against teams who would pack their defence, Rushy would get through on goal because of his ability to break at just the right time, and the ability of Dalglish (and also Molby and later Whelan) to release the ball at just the right moment.
                        As for Kenny, words fail me. He was a genius of a footballer and a privilege to watch. The greatest player I have ever seen ... and I saw John Barnes in his prime.
                        Gerrard and Torres are exceptional in the current team ... but they are not close to Kenny and Rushy .. at least, not yet.
                        Last edited by mersey86; 11-02-09, 06:15 PM.
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                          #27
                          What I loved most about Rush is that he would chase down the keeper everytime. Someone passed it back and he's be on top of the keeper pressuring the kick or trying to get to the ball before the keeper.
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                            #28
                            Those who even think Rush & Dalglish wouldnt be as good in this era havent seen them play. Both are examples of footballers who would succeed in any era, Kenny as he was a footballing genius with vision and ability to match anyone past or present and Rushie as he had all the attributes necessary in a top striker, he was quick, absolutely clinical, I mean you think Robbie was clinical then just watch Rushie, amazing work ethic (think torres ability and kuyts work rate) and he played for 95 minutes every game, all the team did.

                            They were truly superb, and again people sometimes say we remember the past with rose tinted specs and remember players as better than they truly were, to that I say time has only made me forget just how great these 2 really were, in fact they were probably better than I have just said.
                            RAFA

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                              #29
                              The King & Rush all day everyday.
                              Always borrow money from a pessimist. He won’t expect it back. Oscar Wilde

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by redlancer View Post
                                can't comapre untill they have won the same honors aswell.

                                KK and Rush did it at every level form league to europe.

                                forget how good Rush Peoplewas.
                                thats right

                                rush and kk where far and away the best

                                very early to say with me bessie and torres

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