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    We All Dream of A Team of Carraghers

    Don't think Rafa had much choice given Carra's alleged refusal to play there on Saturday. Or rather 'asked not to play there because he felt heavy-legged' FFS. If that true it's a bit of a disgrace - he should play where he's ****ing told - but I'm prepared to hold fire until Carra speaks up.
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    #2
    Originally posted by ShaggyAlonso View Post
    Don't think Rafa had much choice given Carra's alleged refusal to play there on Saturday. Or rather 'asked not to play there because he felt heavy-legged' FFS. If that true it's a bit of a disgrace - he should play where he's ****ing told - but I'm prepared to hold fire until Carra speaks up.

    Ah now I understand the piece I heard on radio 5. It had me puzzled.

    Rafa interviewed post match said Mascherano "had to play there". When the interviewer asked if it was tactical Rafa said "no", then repeated "he had to play there".

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      #3
      So does anyone expect some more to come of this Carra/right-back farce? If you ask me – assuming this is true of course and there’s no reason to believe it isn’t (Martin Tyler is relatively close to a lot of players and gets good info) – Carragher should be fined.

      If he was so ****ing ‘heavy-legged’ he shouldn’t have played at all. He’s either fit to play or he isn’t. Granted playing full-back requires a lot more running, galloping up and down the line, but still. Sounds like a cop-out to me anyway. Heavy-legged my arse. He just didn’t fancy it. Anyway Rafa decides who’s ‘heavy-legged’ as he has all the fitness stats at his disposal.

      Carra may not be the best attacking full-back around but he knows how to play there. He knows how to stay in line and to keep the shape. Poor old Skittles was all at sea and who can blame him having never played there before.

      Yeah, thanks ‘Jamie la’.

      Don’t get me wrong I love Carra but I was fuming when I heard this last night. Hope there’s a proper explanation but Rafa didn’t seem too happy when stressing “he had to play Mascherano there”.
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        #4
        Originally posted by Cormack74 View Post
        Ah now I understand the piece I heard on radio 5. It had me puzzled.

        Rafa interviewed post match said Mascherano "had to play there". When the interviewer asked if it was tactical Rafa said "no", then repeated "he had to play there".
        Yes, it was very odd. Sounded like Rafa was in one of those criptic moods but surely he could give a reason. He must know it will only lead to silly speculation.

        Personally, I think Carra was drug tested and tested positive for scag and there's a conspiracy of silence from the club and the PL.
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          #5
          Originally posted by ShaggyAlonso View Post
          So does anyone expect some more to come of this Carra/right-back farce? If you ask me – assuming this is true of course and there’s no reason to believe it isn’t (Martin Tyler is relatively close to a lot of players and gets good info) – Carragher should be fined.

          If he was so ****ing ‘heavy-legged’ he shouldn’t have played at all. He’s either fit to play or he isn’t. Granted playing full-back requires a lot more running, galloping up and down the line, but still. Sounds like a cop-out to me anyway. Heavy-legged my arse. He just didn’t fancy it. Anyway Rafa decides who’s ‘heavy-legged’ as he has all the fitness stats at his disposal.

          Carra may not be the best attacking full-back around but he knows how to play there. He knows how to stay in line and to keep the shape. Poor old Skittles was all at sea and who can blame him having never played there before.

          Yeah, thanks ‘Jamie la’.

          Don’t get me wrong I love Carra but I was fuming when I heard this last night. Hope there’s a proper explanation but Rafa didn’t seem too happy when stressing “he had to play Mascherano there”.
          It would appear to be out of character for Carragher to dictate where he plays and while I don't think players should have that kind of clout I do think that if Carragher says he can't bomb up and down the wing as he'd be expected to then fair enough.

          If he flat out refused to play then he should have been fined and dropped, telling the manager that he'd rather not then I think from a senior player that is OK.

          My main problem is that we can't trust Aurelio, Dossena or Insua to fill in at RB.
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            #6
            I would certainly be disappointed in Jamie if that is true.

            They're not your legs Jamie, they belong to Liverpool FC.

            When was the last time Gerrard played out on the right as well? Are these two getting a bit too much power perhaps?

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              #7
              Originally posted by Reggie View Post
              I would certainly be disappointed in Jamie if that is true.

              They're not your legs Jamie, they belong to Liverpool FC.

              When was the last time Gerrard played out on the right as well? Are these two getting a bit too much power perhaps?
              Two very different players personality wise, you can see from Gerrard body language when he's pissed off. Play him on the right (or left) and you'll get the sulk from him.

              Carragher has always been different and has played where he's asked every single time - don't forget he was a left back for a season or so.

              If a senior player tells you he feels unable to perform optimally in a high-energy position then fair enough.
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                #8
                Originally posted by ShaggyAlonso View Post
                So does anyone expect some more to come of this Carra/right-back farce? If you ask me – assuming this is true of course and there’s no reason to believe it isn’t (Martin Tyler is relatively close to a lot of players and gets good info) – Carragher should be fined.

                If he was so ****ing ‘heavy-legged’ he shouldn’t have played at all. He’s either fit to play or he isn’t. Granted playing full-back requires a lot more running, galloping up and down the line, but still. Sounds like a cop-out to me anyway. Heavy-legged my arse. He just didn’t fancy it. Anyway Rafa decides who’s ‘heavy-legged’ as he has all the fitness stats at his disposal.

                Carra may not be the best attacking full-back around but he knows how to play there. He knows how to stay in line and to keep the shape. Poor old Skittles was all at sea and who can blame him having never played there before.

                Yeah, thanks ‘Jamie la’.

                Don’t get me wrong I love Carra but I was fuming when I heard this last night. Hope there’s a proper explanation but Rafa didn’t seem too happy when stressing “he had to play Mascherano there”.
                hmmm - what about carra's very slow exit of the pitch on saturday? talking to a guy in work yesterday who said there's a lot of talk about carra and some other players being very put out at parry's "treatment" and apparently ray houghton - i know - described it as a protest walk on saturday.
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                  #9
                  If Carra refused point blank to play RB then it is disgraceful and he should be dropped and taught a lesson playing in the reserves.

                  However, if he just intimated to Rafa that he just honestly did not feel he could give 100% in that position and Rafa had confidence using Mascher in the role, then I see it as less of an issue - disappointing but not worth blowing out of proportion.

                  Mascher was excellent at RB anyway.
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by ShaggyAlonso View Post
                    So does anyone expect some more to come of this Carra/right-back farce? If you ask me – assuming this is true of course and there’s no reason to believe it isn’t (Martin Tyler is relatively close to a lot of players and gets good info) – Carragher should be fined.

                    If he was so ****ing ‘heavy-legged’ he shouldn’t have played at all. He’s either fit to play or he isn’t. Granted playing full-back requires a lot more running, galloping up and down the line, but still. Sounds like a cop-out to me anyway. Heavy-legged my arse. He just didn’t fancy it. Anyway Rafa decides who’s ‘heavy-legged’ as he has all the fitness stats at his disposal.

                    Carra may not be the best attacking full-back around but he knows how to play there. He knows how to stay in line and to keep the shape. Poor old Skittles was all at sea and who can blame him having never played there before.

                    Yeah, thanks ‘Jamie la’.

                    Don’t get me wrong I love Carra but I was fuming when I heard this last night. Hope there’s a proper explanation but Rafa didn’t seem too happy when stressing “he had to play Mascherano there”.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by ShaggyAlonso View Post
                      So does anyone expect some more to come of this Carra/right-back farce? If you ask me – assuming this is true of course and there’s no reason to believe it isn’t (Martin Tyler is relatively close to a lot of players and gets good info) – Carragher should be fined.

                      If he was so ****ing ‘heavy-legged’ he shouldn’t have played at all. He’s either fit to play or he isn’t. Granted playing full-back requires a lot more running, galloping up and down the line, but still. Sounds like a cop-out to me anyway. Heavy-legged my arse. He just didn’t fancy it. Anyway Rafa decides who’s ‘heavy-legged’ as he has all the fitness stats at his disposal.

                      Carra may not be the best attacking full-back around but he knows how to play there. He knows how to stay in line and to keep the shape. Poor old Skittles was all at sea and who can blame him having never played there before.

                      Yeah, thanks ‘Jamie la’.

                      Don’t get me wrong I love Carra but I was fuming when I heard this last night. Hope there’s a proper explanation but Rafa didn’t seem too happy when stressing “he had to play Mascherano there”.

                      Could explain why Skrtel looked so pissed off all game Would also explain why the team looked like they couldnt give a **** at all, and Gerrard looked well pissed off all game.

                      If true Carra should be dropped when Agger gets back.
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by elvoz View Post
                        Note the word ‘relatively’.

                        He talks to players before every game. He has ‘access all areas’. He’s certainly a damn sight closer to Prem footballers than you are!

                        Any news from your sources?
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                          #13
                          I think Carra of all ****ing people deserves a little bit of ****ing respect considering he has been running through ****ing brick walls for the club for as long as I can remember
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Nicey View Post
                            I think Carra of all ****ing people deserves a little bit of ****ing respect considering he has been running through ****ing brick walls for the club for as long as I can remember
                            I totally agree but he is a player, not a coach or manager. He doesn’t run the show and should play where he’s told.
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by ShaggyAlonso View Post
                              Note the word ‘relatively’.

                              He talks to players before every game. He has ‘access all areas’. He’s certainly a damn sight closer to Prem footballers than you are!

                              Any news from your sources?
                              my men are on it as we a speak shaggy
                              but trust me tyler knows **** all bout our players regards inside info

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