Jose Segura - Technical Manager at the Academy

[CJ]

his cv doesnt sound good if we wanted him as manager.

[red g]

His reputation is more in the role he's coming into here though, developing young talent. You can't get a lot better a cv in that area than the players he's credited with overseeing while he was at Barca.

We'll see I guess, but I trust Rafa's knowledge of what happens behind the scenes in Spain, and this guy does seem to be quite central to Rafa's "overhaul" of the academy that he apparently made a big thing about in his contract negotiations.

see what your saying how much of that is down to being in the right place at the time, I mean how much can you do in 2 seasons? one season in youth, one in B team and he was only an assistant!

Although i do tend to agree......If Rafa thinks he is the right man for the job will do for me

[Neil Young]

[badpunforhispanophones]¿Are we sure about all this?[/badpunforhispanophones]

[Tee]

Bring back Stevie Heighway FFS. His record is/was second to none.

[Imy]

Bring back Stevie Heighway FFS. His record is/was second to none.

He and Rafa did not get on.

[joyno]

surely we should have appointed someone with knowledge and experience of the premiership, someone who acknowleges the fierce competitiveness and passion that his needed to succeed in this league, i for one am little bit disappointed with this appointment

[red g]

surely we should have appointed someone with knowledge and experience of the premiership, someone who acknowleges the fierce competitiveness and passion that his needed to succeed in this league, i for one am little bit disappointed with this appointment

i would prefer someone who has seen the bigger picture not sure apppointing someone from a rival club is the way forward....would you honestly be happy if we took say villa's academy manager, rather that someone who has worked in acouple of countries and seen different methods.........and responsible for the development of Andres Iniesta, Victor Valdes, Bojan Krkic, Cesc Fabregas, Gerard Pique and Mikel Arteta.

ra

[joyno]

i would prefer someone who has seen the bigger picture not sure apppointing someone from a rival club is the way forward....would you honestly be happy if we took say villa's academy manager, rather that someone who has worked in acouple of countries and seen different methods.........and responsible for the development of Andres Iniesta, Victor Valdes, Bojan Krkic, Cesc Fabregas, Gerard Pique and Mikel Arteta.

ra

i understand what your saying but do you honestly believe this guy can produce a carragher or a gerrard or even a rooney or a john terry players whether you like the latter ones or not,players that form a backbone of a team you can have a team of fancy dans all day long but you wont win the premiership with them just look what we did to real madrid, the champions league all day long with this calibre of coach but not the bread and butter premiership, but then again maybe money dictates now and playing in europe is the priority.

[Ben_Itez]

i understand what your saying but do you honestly believe this guy can produce a carragher or a gerrard or even a rooney or a john terry players whether you like the latter ones or not,players that form a backbone of a team you can have a team of fancy dans all day long but you wont win the premiership with them just look what we did to real madrid, the champions league all day long with this calibre of coach but not the bread and butter premiership, but then again maybe money dictates now and playing in europe is the priority.

Sounds like a decent appointment to me. Obviously we can only judge him on his reputation and the fact that Rafa wanted him but the proof will ultimately be in the pudding and on how he develops the 'youth'.

His predecessors have failed at producing the next Gerrard or Carra in the last 10 years so i see no reason to believe this guy will fail when the whole system seems to be in the process of complete overhaul.

[joyno]

Sounds like a decent appointment to me. Obviously we can only judge him on his reputation and the fact that Rafa wanted him but the proof will ultimately be in the pudding and on how he develops the 'youth'.

His predecessors have failed at producing the next Gerrard or Carra in the last 10 years so i see no reason to believe this guy will fail when the whole system seems to be in the process of complete overhaul.

his predecessors failed because our managers were foreign and didnt have the premiership as there priority the champions league is the holy grail of any foreign manager that's why Chelsea brought in hiddink its only now that rafa as realised that its of the uppermost importance and to his credit he nearly pulled it off,lets hope it becomes his obsession but i bet you this when we do win it the great man will then revert to winning the champions league again its the way the games going im afraid.world domination and not domestic is the way.

[Ben_Itez]

Surely you cant really believe Rafa deliberately targeted the CL over the Premiership and only this season 'realised' the fans wanted to win the league and so went for it?

Granted when we were twenty or so points off the top in January/Feb he rightly prioritised the CL as it was the only competition we had a chance of winning. The prize money and prestige that came along with this success in the CL has allowed us to buy the likes of Torres, who are now helping us to within touching distance of the Premier League title.

Without our success under Benitez in the Champions League we'd be in a much worse position today and even further from the title.

[Shaggy]

Surely you cant really believe Rafa deliberately targeted the CL over the Premiership and only this season 'realised' the fans wanted to win the league and so went for it?

Granted when we were twenty or so points off the top in January/Feb he rightly prioritised the CL as it was the only competition we had a chance of winning. The prize money and prestige that came along with this success in the CL has allowed us to buy the likes of Torres, who are now helping us to within touching distance of the Premier League title.

Without our success under Benitez in the Champions League we'd be in a much worse position today and even further from the title.

[red g]

Surely you cant really believe Rafa deliberately targeted the CL over the Premiership and only this season 'realised' the fans wanted to win the league and so went for it?

Granted when we were twenty or so points off the top in January/Feb he rightly prioritised the CL as it was the only competition we had a chance of winning. The prize money and prestige that came along with this success in the CL has allowed us to buy the likes of Torres, who are now helping us to within touching distance of the Premier League title.

Without our success under Benitez in the Champions League we'd be in a much worse position today and even further from the title.

we were not ready for an assualt on a 4 way trophy hunt, It was and always will be more media xenophobic bull**** wouldnt suit there agenda to admit there was no way we could push for the title in the early years under benitez

[dww]

his predecessors failed because our managers were foreign and didnt have the premiership as there priority the champions league is the holy grail of any foreign manager that's why Chelsea brought in hiddink its only now that rafa as realised that its of the uppermost importance and to his credit he nearly pulled it off,lets hope it becomes his obsession but i bet you this when we do win it the great man will then revert to winning the champions league again its the way the games going im afraid.world domination and not domestic is the way.

A/ surely one of those foreign managers was the one who plucked Gerrard from the reserves and it was Rafa who made Carragher from a utility defender into a top class CB. Indicating they have been willing to value players when they have been goo enough.

B/ If they were CL obsessed and didn't care about the league surely the would have thrown the youngsters into the cup and league matches when we wanted to rest players for the CL?

C/ If that was the case would some of these players not be making a big splash elsewhere. Rafa gave Warnock his chance and he wasn't at the level we needed, he has gone on to be a good PL player but nothing special. None of the other great white hopes - Welsh, Potter, Partridge etc have done anything.

[dww]

Surely you cant really believe Rafa deliberately targeted the CL over the Premiership and only this season 'realised' the fans wanted to win the league and so went for it?

Granted when we were twenty or so points off the top in January/Feb he rightly prioritised the CL as it was the only competition we had a chance of winning. The prize money and prestige that came along with this success in the CL has allowed us to buy the likes of Torres, who are now helping us to within touching distance of the Premier League title.

Without our success under Benitez in the Champions League we'd be in a much worse position today and even further from the title.

I don't really get where the impression that foreign managers can only really concentrate on one competition comes from.