Is Insua a homegrown player from 10/11?

[SK]

We have bunged the likes of Kelly into the squad this season and it hasn't done any harm in terms of our depth - I think we will continue with that policy of players who make up numbers/might gain experience in at least a couple of slots for at least a year or two.

well the more home-grown players we have, the better, it leaves us with more possibilities of who to sell and who not to sell, just for the quotas

[Red_Polo]

it might also explain rafa's reluctance allowing players we've brought from abroad at 17 or 18 to go out on loan

I don't think loans affect the situation guys, it's the club who holds the players registration that is important.

[SK]

I don't think loans affect the situation guys, it's the club who holds the players registration that is important.

surely the rule would then state something like: homegrown is a player who is registered at a club between 15 and 21 years of age, instead of trained at..

we'd need to ask parry about this one..

[Red_Polo]

surely the rule would then state something like: homegrown is a player who is registered at a club between 15 and 21 years of age, instead of trained at..

we'd need to ask parry about this one..

Definitions
A club-trained player is defined as a player who has been registered for a minimum of three seasons with the club between the age of 15 and 21, whereas an association-trained player is a player who has been registered for at least three seasons by the club or by other clubs affiliated to the same association of the said club between the age of 15 and 21.

http://www.uefa.com/uefa/keytopics/kind=65536/newsid=276829.html

[SK]

well i guess it can go either way then, as i posted above also from the uefa page, the rule states "trained at"

[SK]

ok..well whilst composting a mail to uefa, in the hope they can clarify this situation, because i'm a little bit courious now, i've come to realise something - don't clubs who have a player on loan, also hold his registration?

[EwarWoo]

Surely even if he was here on loan he had to be registered with the club to be eligible to play for us?

He wasn't contracted to us no, but registered....?

[Neil Young]

This thread is going round in circles. Basically we're all just guessing.

Pretty much what the internet is all about.

[SK]

This thread is going round in circles. Basically we're all just guessing.

Pretty much what the internet is all about.

hence the email to uefa

[BrianF80]

Agreed, that would make total sense, and it would also explain how more english lads are allowed out on loan.

We need 8 home grown players (Minimum of 4 by us and 4 by someone else) for the champions league and it looks like the prem might adopt those rules to, who will our 8 be in 2-3 years time? I think:-

1. Gerrard
2. Insua
3. Spearing
4. Darby
5. Mike Roque??
6.
7.
8.


I've left Carragher off as I think he only has 3 years left, but thats for a different thread...

The U18s will eventually qualify as "home grown" so they'll be the squad fillers methinks.

Bouzanis
Amoo
Dalla Valle
etc

[lickedlollipop]

talking about homegrown... kelly did good job in u-19 win over Bosnia. xD

[Red_Polo]

well i guess it can go either way then, as i posted above also from the uefa page, the rule states "trained at"

The definition I posted is the same one you can find in various competition regulations available from the UEFA site as a pdf to download.

For instance: http://www.uefa.com/multimediafiles/...7_download.pdf

I think it would go against the point of the regulation if UEFA decided loans would affect the player's status. I know for a fact they can be that stupid but I don't think they are in this case.

Also (I know someone else mentioned it) when a club has a player on loan they definitely do not hold their registration.

One thing I'm not too sure on though is loaning outside of your association....