Season Tickets and 'value'

[Craig_H]

I remember the days when season tickets were excellent value - you put up all the money in one go and up front, so you're basically buying in bulk and in advance, but it used to get you a fairly good discount, compared to buying each game one by one.

It's different now though.

I've been offered a ST for next season, at the handsome price of £682, and that's just for the 19 league games.

So 682 divided by 19 = £35.89.

How much are tickets normally? Well, for the main stand, which is where the Season Ticket would be, it's between £36 and £38, depending on whether it's a Category A or B match.

So it's a mighty saving (at most) of £2.11 per game, or £40.09 over the whole season.

So the bonus for stumping up nearly £700 in one go, during a recession, is a saving of £40.

Kind of a 'buy 18, get one free' deal.

It's pretty ****e really. Never used to be like this.

[poorscousertommy]

It's been this way for 20 years or so. I have had my season ticket since I was 9 (24 years) and it has been this style for the most part.

I do hazily remember having cup vouchers as part of my old standing kop ticket. I think spare vouchers were used. I may be wrong though.

Value wise we are very good in comparison to the teams around us.

Just be happy you have been offered a season ticket. I know people who'd kill for one.

Also your guaranteed tickets for the mancs and bitter games which are like gold dust.

[Craig_H]

It's been this way for 20 years or so. I have had my season ticket since I was 9 (24 years) and it has been this style for the most part.

I do hazily remember having cup vouchers as part of my old standing kop ticket. I think spare vouchers were used. I may be wrong though.

Value wise we are very good in comparison to the teams around us.

Just be happy you have been offered a season ticket. I know people who'd kill for one.

Also your guaranteed tickets for the mancs and bitter games which are like gold dust.

I'm happy about being offered one, but to be honest, i get tickets for every game on a match-by-match basis anyway (barring literally one or two exceptions per season) so i never have a problem getting tickets for Man Utd or Everton games, as i always have the pre-requisite games anyway.
Just for the record, this offer isnt via the club, it's from an existing ST holder and mate of mine, who owns several season tickets, and this one is going to be spare for next season. So i'll have full use of it for next season and maybe future seasons, but it wont be 'in my name', so it's not mine for life.

The main benefits will be not having to worry about remembering dates of sale and getting up early to log-in and/or keep hitting redial on the phones.

Also no more booking fees, which over a season, add up. Not to mention reduced phone bill. Obviously the peace of mind of knowing i'm sorted for every game in advance and the 'once it's paid for, it's paid for' aspect.

Still seems a rip-off though. I know this applies to all PL clubs, but it's just another sad example of football milking the passion of fans and taking full advantage.

[Stanbull]

I've had a season ticket for 20 odd years And to be honest I think it's good value if you compare it's price to other top prem teams.

Also in the last few years were you are able to tick the boxes for Euro, Fa Cup & League cup tickets are posted to you automatically means no travelling & queuing at the ticket office.

Like previous poster said you are lucky to get one so I wouldn't be moaning about it tbh especially when there is something like an 18 year waiting list

[-V-]

Show off. Stop ****in moaning

[meffin]

Show off. Stop ****in moaning

[Greebo]

I'm happy about being offered one, but to be honest, i get tickets for every game on a match-by-match basis anyway (barring literally one or two exceptions per season) so i never have a problem getting tickets for Man Utd or Everton games, as i always have the pre-requisite games anyway.
Just for the record, this offer isnt via the club, it's from an existing ST holder and mate of mine, who owns several season tickets, and this one is going to be spare for next season. So i'll have full use of it for next season and maybe future seasons, but it wont be 'in my name', so it's not mine for life.

The main benefits will be not having to worry about remembering dates of sale and getting up early to log-in and/or keep hitting redial on the phones.

Also no more booking fees, which over a season, add up. Not to mention reduced phone bill. Obviously the peace of mind of knowing i'm sorted for every game in advance and the 'once it's paid for, it's paid for' aspect.

Still seems a rip-off though. I know this applies to all PL clubs, but it's just another sad example of football milking the passion of fans and taking full advantage.

And here we have a perfect demonstration of why there are literally thousands of people on the season ticket waiting list.

You, and your friend are out of order. If the ST isnt in your name, WHY THE HELL ARE YOU USING IT? There are thousands of people who cant spend hours every week during the working day on the ticket line hoping for a ticket. Almost all of them are screaming out for season tickets. But it's alright for you... you can get one from a "mate" who happens to have someone else's. THEN you have the temerity to moan about the cost, and the fact that you only get a saving of £40 a season...

Well, given that that £40 represents around 6% as a discount AND you are getting access to EVERY league game and priority on others... WHAT THE FECK ARE YOU MOANING ABOUT????????

[Angry Dan]

And here we have a perfect demonstration of why there are literally thousands of people on the season ticket waiting list.

You, and your friend are out of order. If the ST isnt in your name, WHY THE HELL ARE YOU USING IT? There are thousands of people who cant spend hours every week during the working day on the ticket line hoping for a ticket. Almost all of them are screaming out for season tickets. But it's alright for you... you can get one from a "mate" who happens to have someone else's. THEN you have the temerity to moan about the cost, and the fact that you only get a saving of £40 a season...

Well, given that that £40 represents around 6% as a discount AND you are getting access to EVERY league game and priority on others... WHAT THE FECK ARE YOU MOANING ABOUT????????

Agree completley

I think it is about time the club did something about this, I understand fully and have benifited from many times that people can not always make every game.

I also think that people should be able to give there ticket to others to use when they cant make it.

The problem is I know people that have not been to more than 2-3 games a season for over 5 seasons and they are the people that have more than one season ticket.

[Craig_H]

I wonder how many posters, if they were in possession of a ST, would give it back to the club right now. I bet i could count the number on one hand.

This fella who i'm on about, helps ****loads of reds with tickets every season, myself included. I dont think it's right for people to make a judgement on someone they have no idea about. He's had season tickets in his family for decades, he bought them fair and square and they dont go unused, they enable plenty of fans to go to games that they wouldnt be able to go to otherwise, and everyone who gets a ticket off him pays face value and not a penny more.

It's easy to say about giving it up, but i very much doubt anyone here would give it up, i think the vast majority would let others use it. It's not as if there's seats going empty because of this, the tickets are used by fellow reds. They arent touted, they arent sold to some 'ticket agency' and they're used to allow Liverpool fans to watch Liverpool.

If it came across as 'showing off', i apologise, that wasnt the intention. It's obviously at the stage where the level of demand and the difficulty of getting a ST is so high, that people see it as a great bonus to get one, even without much of a 'discount' for 'buying in bulk' as was the idea in the past. I can understand that, in the context of the supply/demand situation.

I dont think it's fair to attack people who arent here to defend themselves, however.

[Shanks]

I remember the days when season tickets were excellent value.
It's pretty ****e really. Never used to be like this.

So did you used to have a ticket back in the day
and if it's that ****e now, why not let it go back into the system?

[Shanks]

I dont think it's right for people to make a judgement on someone they have no idea about.

I dont think it's fair to attack people who arent here to defend themselves, however.

You seem to be pretty good at it.

http://www.est1892.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=55457

So i can buy a ticket and sell it on here and get slated but you take the whole cake for the season?

[Craig_H]

And here we have a perfect demonstration of why there are literally thousands of people on the season ticket waiting list.

There's literally tens of thousands of people on the waiting list, myself included. Do you think there's tens of thousands of people who are in the same situation as my mate? I doubt it. If nobody was in possession of more than one season ticket, there'd still be a massive waiting list.

You, and your friend are out of order.

Why am i out of order? I didnt buy the STs for him. I had no involvement in that. If you were offered the use of a season ticket, i'm really sure you'd turn it down, wouldnt you? Given the apparently horrific ordeal it is to get tickets, you'd refuse the option of a ticket? I doubt it.

If the ST isnt in your name, WHY THE HELL ARE YOU USING IT? There are thousands of people who cant spend hours every week during the working day on the ticket line hoping for a ticket. Almost all of them are screaming out for season tickets. But it's alright for you... you can get one from a "mate" who happens to have someone else's. THEN you have the temerity to moan about the cost, and the fact that you only get a saving of £40 a season...

I've never had a ST, i've never even been on the PTS. I've ALWAYS had to buy tickets on a game by game basis. And i've rarely spent hours on the phone, most of the tickets go to online sale. Like plenty, i keep an note of what date they go on sale, wake up early, log in, keep it refreshed and buy the ticket when it hits 8:30am. Over the past 3 or 4 seasons, i've tried for every home game using this method and i've missed out about 2 or 3 times.

So if people use the online sales and get online at the right time, it's not the hellish experience you describe.

My mate's ST are all in his family and they're all bought and paid for, and used every game. They're not bought for the sake of it, just to have them and to be used once in a while.

[Craig_H]

You seem to be pretty good at it.

http://www.est1892.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=55457

So i can buy a ticket and sell it on here and get slated but you take the whole cake for the season?

Who was i having a go at, that wasnt there to defend themselves?

I've clearly underestimated how sensitive a topic this would be.

But there's a difference between buying tickets for loyalty, with no intention of going to the games, and buying a ST with the intention of going to the games.

[Shanks]

You should hang your head in shame and apologise to every LFC fan.

[Craig_H]

You should hang your head in shame and apologise to every LFC fan.

I could get an orderly queue formed of fans who WOULDNT take a ST if offered - and i'd still be able to stare easily into the distance