Lucas To Replace Xabi?

[Exiled_red]

On a forum? I don't throw **** at him or boo him but he clearly isn't good enough. In my opinion is he ****e. 4 goals from 70(!) games last year and only one of those was in the league. Please tell me what he is good at.

I hope he improves but he is miles off being capable of doing anything for our team.

How many of those appearences were as sub though?

[PTP]

Yeah, good shout. If he can stop being absolutely ****e we have a ready made replacement. Simples.

[Shaggy]

I think regardss of who we sign to replace Xabi, Lucas will be in the eleven on day one at Spurs. Aquilani, or whoever we sign by way of replacement, will be a sub and eased into the side. Lucas will definitely start at Spurs IMO.

[Exiled_red]

I think regardss of who we sign to replace Xabi, Lucas will be in the eleven on day one at Spurs. Aquilani, or whoever we sign by way of replacement, will be a sub and eased into the side. Lucas will definitely start at Spurs IMO.

I agree, it seems to be the way Rafa works

[Pablo]

Lucas will play A LOT of games for us this season. As Shaggy said whoever does come in to replace Xabi will be eased in. I would be surprised if Lucas isnt in our first XI for at least the first 5 games. He will play a similar amount of games to Mascherano this season IMO.

[Chrono]

Ok, the stats were completely off, crap interweb sources.

08/09
Played: 39 (19 as a sub)
Goals: 3

[Reece]

Ok, the stats were completely off, crap interweb sources.

08/09
Played: 39 (19 as a sub)
Goals: 3

Your original stats were his total at the club, because I also checked

[Chrono]

Your original stats were his total at the club, because I also checked

At least he is improving even if it's not exactly at a phenominal rate

[rudedog]

Ok, the stats were completely off, crap interweb sources.

08/09
Played: 39 (19 as a sub)
Goals: 3

seing as you've chosen to look at stats, lets compare Lucas with Alonso then

Alonso:http://soccernet.espn.go.com/players...n=2009&cc=5739
starts - 49
goals - 7
assists - 8

Lucas: http://soccernet.espn.go.com/players...108315&cc=5739
starts - 20
goals - 3
assists 4



so from starting less than half the amount of games as Xabi, it seems Lucas's impact in terms of goals and assists is pretty much the same.

[Chrono]

That doesn't paint the full picture though does it. An assist is made at the pass before a goal. Alonso controlled the pace of games and is the only player in football that you could say operated as a quarter back, opening channels and picking passes. Lucas plays further forward and has never controlled a game in his life.

You think he is up to the task, I don't That doesn't mean I want him to fail though.

[TheElephantMan]

I think he's a much better player than he's given credit for. Rafa has faith in him, and if he continues to develop and progress as he did in the second half of last season then I fully expect him to be a first team regular. He's good at everything, but doesn't excel at anything...yet.

[rudedog]

That doesn't paint the full picture though does it. An assist is made at the pass before a goal. Alonso controlled the pace of games and is the only player in football that you could say operated as a quarter back, opening channels and picking passes. Lucas plays further forward and has never controlled a game in his life.

You think he is up to the task, I don't That doesn't mean I want him to fail though.

Of course it doesn't paint the full picture. However, if your going to pull up stats to attempt to bring a player down you need to look at the stats of the player you are comparing him to.

I don't know if he is up to the task of replacing Xabi - I've never said that he is. I just disagree with your initial dissmisive comment that he is 'absolutely ****e'.

[TheElephantMan]

Of course it doesn't paint the full picture. However, if your going to pull up stats to attempt to bring a player down you need to look at the stats of the player you are comparing him to.

I don't know if he is up to the task of replacing Xabi - I've never said that he is. I just disagree with your initial dissmisive comment that he is 'absolutely ****e'.

The stats compare favourably, but also it should be taken into account that he wasn't playing particularly well in the first half of the season and therefore he finished the season a much better player than the stats would indicate over the course of the whole season.

[DannyMan2006]

Lucas is not as good as Alonso. We will of course be a worse team with him in the side. But that doesn't make him rubbish.

What I will say of him is that I would not lose any sleep if Lucas left, though I do feel he has some potential. He's good enough for back up, but not first choice.

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seing as you've chosen to look at stats, lets compare Lucas with Alonso then

Alonso:http://soccernet.espn.go.com/players...n=2009&cc=5739
starts - 49
goals - 7
assists - 8

Lucas: http://soccernet.espn.go.com/players...108315&cc=5739
starts - 20
goals - 3
assists 4



so from starting less than half the amount of games as Xabi, it seems Lucas's impact in terms of goals and assists is pretty much the same.

83.7% of statistics are made up on the spot!

Including this one!