THE Lucas thread

[Guest]

How can Craig_H rate Aquilani as better than Lucas when he's not even played yet. And even more strange, how could he base his assumption of Aquilani on youtube videos alone when he's admitted himself that 'judging players on youtube is a load of poppycock'.

[Craig_H]

A significant number of people are voting for him in their top 3 in alot of matches, surely people aren't just voting for him out of sympathy. He must be doing something right, and there are alot of players who are playing worse than him but getting alot less critisism. Yes you could argue these players have played well over long periods of time and Lucas hasn't (as many people have) but surely the time to criticise isn't when he's one of our better players, as is the case at the moment.

I dont think many people are disputing that he's doing something right, he's been pretty decent so far this season.

The main bone of contention is with the idea that he is first choice all the time, which some find difficult, because he's not of the ilk of Gerrard, Torres, Reina etc, and they're the level of players who should always be first choice.

[Craig_H]

How can Craig_H rate Aquilani as better than Lucas when he's not even played yet. And even more strange, how could he base his assumption of Aquilani on youtube videos alone when he's admitted himself that 'judging players on youtube is a load of poppycock'.

Sorry, Aquilani has never played football before, then?

Why are you assuming that i dont watch italian football?

Shouldnt you be concentrating your efforts on telling us how good an idea it would've been to rest Torres yesterday?

[Guest]

No one is saying that he should be an automatic choice Craig_H but that he should be there on merit and by the simple fact that there isn't a better player in our squad that could take his place, apart from Gerrard, which is irrelevant because Rafa favours Gerrard as a partner to Torres upfront.

I think our formation last night was very interesting, with Gerrard dropping deep to help the midfield and I think because of that our passing was more fluent, as Gerrard made himself available to receive a forward pass.

[Guest]

Sorry, Aquilani has never played football before, then?

Why are you assuming that i dont watch italian football?

Shouldnt you be concentrating your efforts on telling us how good an idea it would've been to rest Torres yesterday?

No because you stated that you don't know much about the player. Well Torres will be rested at some point this season so you should accept that Ngog or Voronin are going to deputise for him. He won't play every game you know.

[Assassin]

Sorry to rain on your parade, but it's simply that i dont think Lucas should be untouchable and ALWAYS play, because i think in terms of CM, i believe Mascherano, Gerrard and Aquilani are all better than him.

I think he should be a squad player, not a certain first team starter every single game.

Craig what you "think or believe" about Lucas will not affect Rafa's decisions on team selection thankfully

[Craig_H]

No one is saying that he should be an automatic choice Craig_H but that he should be there on merit and by the simple fact that there isn't a better player in our squad that could take his place, apart from Gerrard, which is irrelevant because Rafa favours Gerrard as a partner to Torres upfront.

I think our formation last night was very interesting, with Gerrard dropping deep to help the midfield and I think because of that our passing was more fluent, as Gerrard made himself available to receive a forward pass.

But he IS an automatic choice. Have you not been watching?

[Craig_H]

Craig what you "think or believe" about Lucas will not affect Rafa's decisions on team selection thankfully

Where did i suggest it does? I was simply replying to the other fella's notion of 'what i was doing' as he saw it. As you know.

So stop being a turd

[Guest]

But he IS an automatic choice. Have you not been watching?

Because as I've said, at the moment there is no one better than him in his position, unless you bring back Gerrard there.

[Assassin]

Where did i suggest it does? I was simply replying to the other fella's notion of 'what i was doing' as he saw it. As you know.

So stop being a turd

as hes see's it, as I see's it, as you know, you are the prince of turds

We know you are beginning to warm to Lucas, just admit it

[Exiled_red]

I dont think many people are disputing that he's doing something right, he's been pretty decent so far this season.

The main bone of contention is with the idea that he is first choice all the time, which some find difficult, because he's not of the ilk of Gerrard, Torres, Reina etc, and they're the level of players who should always be first choice.

But he isn't considered first choice neither last season nor if Aqualini were fit this. Comparisons with Gerrard and Torres aren't really fair as there are some class players who still aren't in their league.

The point dww makes is true it's about the balance of the midfield, at present it's clearly not right, but that's not solely due to Lucas or his level of ability

[JHP]

Sorry to rain on your parade, but it's simply that i dont think Lucas should be untouchable and ALWAYS play, because i think in terms of CM, i believe Mascherano, Gerrard and Aquilani are all better than him.

I think he should be a squad player, not a certain first team starter every single game.

Rather than repeat the mantra try reading my post and replying to the points.

[Craig_H]

Rather than repeat the mantra try reading my post and replying to the points.

I read your post and your suggestion that i was using Lucas as a way to disagree with Rafa, was incorrect.

[JHP]

I read your post and your suggestion that i was using Lucas as a way to disagree with Rafa, was incorrect.

I dont think many people are disputing that he's doing something right, he's been pretty decent so far this season. The main bone of contention is with the idea that he is first choice all the time, which some find difficult, because he's not of the ilk of Gerrard, Torres, Reina etc, and they're the level of players who should always be first choice.

So you're not disagreeing with Rafa's selections yet your main bone of contention is that he is first choice all the time - sorry I can't understand.

Is your point then that he's not world class like Gerrard, Torres, Reina? If that's what you're saying I don't think you'll get many to disagree.

[Craig_H]

You were implying that my opinion on Lucas was just a reason for me to 'argue with Rafa and his decions', rather than my view on Lucas simply being just that.