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    #16
    Originally posted by RPAS View Post
    I think we look leggy to be honest but its like all things you needs luck; if Yossi had scored in the first minute we'd have beaten them by 3/4; I have a feeling that this season will be a big topsy turvy for all the teams; bar Chelsea - they are settled, especially at the back; have experience; competition for places is good and they all want to impress the new manager.
    I Agree with that and at the time I felt one goal could lead to 4/5 or more.The first 20 minutes of a game when we play at Home we smash sides and hope for that early goal as it proved towards the end of last season , Our problem is If we dont score that early goal we seem to panic and get frustrated has proved a number of times last season , We only play better when we are losing and around 20 mins remaining,
    You Can Lead A Horse To Water , But A Pencil Must Be Lead!

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      #17
      Nothing ever happens, nothing happens at all,
      The needle returns to the start of the song,
      And we all sing along like before,




      And well all be lonely tonight and lonely tomorrow....

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        #18
        Originally posted by redpablo View Post
        i think it does to be honest and Xabi leaving us is way more damaging that the show pony leaving man u. we have gone backwards in 6 months and desperately need to get someone with vision in or we will really struggle to break teams down again all season.
        Nonsense



        And gone backwards in 6 months? ****ing hell. Its only been 3 games, 1 of which we won comfortably. Everyone knows that we've got off to a shocking start but jesus, people dont half like over-reacting
        I saw a dead fish on the pavement and thought "what did you expect?"
        There's no water round here stupid, should have stayed where it was wet

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          #19
          I agree, Its a shocking start, but its even more shocking that people are saying that we are out of the race with three games gone, Its mental, The last time we lost two out of the three games we won the league. The top of the league is going to be wider open than ever this season, the top four will loose more games, So we should all just chill-the-****-ax, but if we loose two more out of the next five were ****ed!!

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            #20
            all kinds of crazy rumours on crazy rumours.com ... particularly about VDV and our Number 7
            Anybody who criticizes Klopp ever is a James Blunt. Nov 2015
            #****CITY

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              #21
              Originally posted by redpablo View Post
              i think it does to be honest and Xabi leaving us is way more damaging that the show pony leaving man u. we have gone backwards in 6 months and desperately need to get someone with vision in or we will really struggle to break teams down again all season.
              This re-invention of Alonso is quite amusing. He was a fine player in many games but I remember many other games where he was lambasted on here for average performances. He played - badly - and scored the OG in the game at Boro last season to name but one dodgy perfomance and I can honestly not remember a single killer ball where he opened up an opposition defence leading directly to a goal last season. He also only scored about 3 goals I believe so it's not as if his absence is seriously going to affect our goal-scoring situation. Ronaldo's absence is a huge blow for Man U as they simply have no-one at all who will make up the roughly 20+ goals a season on average that he contributed.

              It's the same on TV and in the newspapers. I don't remember any journalist or presenter last season highlighting Alonso's absence in critical league or CL games as being a huge blow - let's not forget that we're apparently officially a two-man team, having been just a one-man team before Torres arrived - but all of a sudden, without anyone realising it, journalists and presenters inform us that we were actually a one-man team all along and it was Alonso as that one man - forget Torres and Gerrard now

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                #22
                sorry are some of you seriously suggesting we are stronger than we were before last jan? holy **** boys I didnt try to buck rafa's ma, or go totally off on one, I was hardly hysterical. we looked totally out of sorts the other night, I was at the match and it was one of the most frustrating matches in a long while. Same with Spurs.
                Xabi was one of my favourite recent players, he 'got' the club, was a model pro and he was treated badly. we're suffering as a result of his loss, no question and there are few teams in the league that wouldnt struggle. hardly an over-reaction ffs. by ronaldo I mean they have other means of getting the vital goals the wee greasy bollox got them, we have nobody to step up with the range of passing Alonso had, therefore its more of a loss in my view.
                Dont misread what I am saying - I concede **** all, we're not out of a title race after three games, I am not a rafa out ****, i love the guy, but we will need a significant change or teams will come to anfield and we'll have nothing to break them down with. we will have masher and gerrard or lucas in the middle of the park with the ball looking forlornly for someone to pass to.
                LFC - the footballing Phoenix. Watch us rise.

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by redpablo View Post
                  sorry are some of you seriously suggesting we are stronger than we were before last jan? holy **** boys I didnt try to buck rafa's ma, or go totally off on one, I was hardly hysterical. we looked totally out of sorts the other night, I was at the match and it was one of the most frustrating matches in a long while. Same with Spurs.
                  Maybe you should wait to see how good Aquilani is before deciding if we are better or worse.
                  Forwards.......

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by redpablo View Post
                    sorry are some of you seriously suggesting we are stronger than we were before last jan? holy **** boys I didnt try to buck rafa's ma, or go totally off on one, I was hardly hysterical. we looked totally out of sorts the other night, I was at the match and it was one of the most frustrating matches in a long while. Same with Spurs.

                    Xabi was one of my favourite recent players, he 'got' the club, was a model pro and he was treated badly. we're suffering as a result of his loss, no question and there are few teams in the league that wouldnt struggle. hardly an over-reaction ffs.

                    by ronaldo I mean they have other means of getting the vital goals the wee greasy bollox got them, we have nobody to step up with the range of passing Alonso had, therefore its more of a loss in my view.

                    Dont misread what I am saying - I concede **** all, we're not out of a title race after three games, I am not a rafa out ****, i love the guy, but we will need a significant change or teams will come to anfield and we'll have nothing to break them down with. we will have masher and gerrard or lucas in the middle of the park with the ball looking forlornly for someone to pass to.
                    Originally posted by DannyMan2006 View Post
                    Maybe you should wait to see how good Aquilani is before deciding if we are better or worse.
                    I think he's got a fair point in saying that RIGHT NOW, of course we're worse off than we were last season. Personally I think that if Aquilani gels we'll be a better team due to his skills, pace and above all the extra (hopefully) penetration and attack that he will bring

                    But to say that we'll miss Xabi more than United will miss Ronaldo, regardless of whether Aquilani hits the ground running, is just nonsense. The greasy swine scored 20+ from essentially, the right wing. No-one else in the world can do that with the exception of possibly Messi. Ronaldo is one of the few players in the world that is truly irreplacable

                    For all Alonso's traits, he's nowhere near as valuable as Ronaldo is, a fact confirmed by the comparative transfer values
                    I saw a dead fish on the pavement and thought "what did you expect?"
                    There's no water round here stupid, should have stayed where it was wet

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Fierce View Post
                      I think he's got a fair point in saying that RIGHT NOW, of course we're worse off than we were last season. Personally I think that if Aquilani gels we'll be a better team due to his skills, pace and above all the extra (hopefully) penetration and attack that he will bring

                      But to say that we'll miss Xabi more than United will miss Ronaldo, regardless of whether Aquilani hits the ground running, is just nonsense. The greasy swine scored 20+ from essentially, the right wing. No-one else in the world can do that with the exception of possibly Messi. Ronaldo is one of the few players in the world that is truly irreplacable

                      For all Alonso's traits, he's nowhere near as valuable as Ronaldo is, a fact confirmed by the comparative transfer values
                      Well we are worse at the moment of course, whether we were winning or not as we'd be a player down until Aquilani gets fit.

                      On Ronaldo v Alonso. We miss Alonso because he was an important part of our game plan who would knit play together. Ronaldo was more than just a part of their game play, he was a maverick. He could not only do an important job as aprt of Man Utds game plan, he could also come out with something completely sublime and out the ordinary to win a game on his own.

                      No matter how well a defense does agaisnt a team, you can't legislate for genius. I lost count of the number of times he won a game for them out of nothing.
                      Forwards.......

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