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    Rafa Benitez: Liverpool don't have to win trophies to be a success

    Rafa Benitez: Liverpool don't have to win trophies to be a success

    Published 22:04 31/10/09 By Simon Mullock



    Rafa Benitez has claimed success at Liverpool should not be measured in trophies.

    The Merseysiders pride themselves as being the most successful club in England, with 18 titles and five European Cups.

    But Benitez, who takes Liverpool into a week that could decide their Champions League fate after Saturday's shock 3-1 defeat at Fulham, said: “I don’t agree when people say that you have to win trophies.

    “I always say you have to be there, you have to be close, you have to create a group of players who can fight for trophies.

    “We got 86 points last season, yet some people were saying that it wasn’t good because we finished second.

    “I think reducing the gap between the top team and Liverpool to four points was a massive achievement.

    “Trophies mean a lot to everyone. But the most important thing is to see progression and evidence that you are improving and able to fight for trophies.

    “It’s not just about one year. It is about what we can achieve in the future.

    “People say that I have now been here five years. I say, look at the differences here now.

    “Look at the value of the club before compared to the value of the club now.

    “Look at the value of the squad before compared to the value of the squad now. You can see the progression.”

    Benitez’s words will come as a surprise to followers of a club with an insatiable appetite for silverware.

    As legendary Anfield boss Bob Paisley once famously said: “First is first and second is nowhere.”

    Spaniard Benitez won the Champions League in his first season at Anfield, but the Reds have not lifted a trophy since the FA Cup in 2006.

    He was given assurances about his future last week by managing director Christian Purslow.

    Hours later Liverpool resurrected their Premier League challenge by beating Manchester United 2-0.

    But they travel to Lyon in the Champions League on Wednesday night with their hopes of progression hanging by a thread following the French club’s 2-1 win at Anfield and a defeat at Fiorentina.

    Benitez believes he will still have the backing of Purslow and the club’s two American owners, even if Liverpool suffer an early exit from Europe’s premier competition.

    But he is aware that such a scenario would have serious consequences when it comes to his New Year transfer budget.

    Benitez said: “Christian Purslow made it very clear that when I signed a new contract for five years it was so that I would be at this club for a very long time.

    “Now I can control the Academy, I can control the young players we produce and build something very good for the future.

    “We have analysed the squad together, looking at plans for January and also next season.

    “My belief is that we will qualify for the knockout stages of the Champions League, but of course, you have to have plans based on whether you have more money or less money available.

    “The more money you have, the easier it is.

    “If you have less money then you have to manage in a different way and find other solutions to improve.”


    Have to say if he said that I am not impressed what do other people think ?

    I understand the need to improve the team but Rafa mentions increasing the value of the club!!!!!!!!

    His job is to win trophies,
    Last edited by MrsB; 01-11-09, 08:46 AM. Reason: Article added
    "All I'll ever do is all I've ever done in any job, and that's promise to fight for my life for the supporters and the people of the city"

    #2
    Great going

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      #3
      Iv seen this and Im not at all happy about these quotes.

      Reminds me of the Tom Hicks quote, "You don't even have to win a championship every year to draw the fans. You just have to show you're really trying."

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        #4
        Beginning of the end? Would Real pay us/him for the rest of his outstanding contract in the summer. Not saying I want this yet, but if things were to get much worse?
        One tit for another.

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          #5
          Aslong as we finally nail the old zonal marking shizz Rafa will be a happy man.
          "Let me say for the record, I am not a gangster and never have been. Im not the thief who grabs your purse. Im not the guy who jacks your car. Im not down with the people who steal and hurt others. Im just a brother who fight back."
          Tupac

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            #6
            In fairness 86 points last season was some achievement. Any other season we could have won the league with that tally.
            "Let me say for the record, I am not a gangster and never have been. Im not the thief who grabs your purse. Im not the guy who jacks your car. Im not down with the people who steal and hurt others. Im just a brother who fight back."
            Tupac

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              #7
              dammed if he does dammed if he doesn't. what has rafa done to the media to warrant this assassination of his character, its a terrible start to the season rafa has made some mistakes and we are all feeling a little pissed off but we have a right to feel that way because we support the club, who is out there better than rafa, we decide who we want to manage the club and when we are pissed off with rafa we will let him know. not the ****ing gutter press, stick to jordan stories you ****s.

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                #8
                Originally posted by joyno View Post
                dammed if he does dammed if he doesn't. what has rafa done to the media to warrant this assassination of his character, its a terrible start to the season rafa has made some mistakes and we are all feeling a little pissed off but we have a right to feel that way because we support the club, who is out there better than rafa, we decide who we want to manage the club and when we are pissed off with rafa we will let him know. not the ****ing gutter press, stick to jordan stories you ****s.
                I agree

                The constant Rafa attacks by the press is pissing me off big time. Wenger over the last 4 Years of achieving nothing has not got as much stick, or questioned even when they had a very bad year when spurs nearly finished above them. They play pretty football so its ok attitude.

                From the so-called impartial BBC Shiite 5 Live crap fest to the mediocre Talksport, add to that the **** faces at Sky, there all looking for him to go. You’d think Rafa has slept with all there wives and daughters, sisters and mothers to have all these daggers constantly thrown at him.

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                  #9
                  Does seem like a very strange statement to make but.

                  He may as well be saying "OK, I've given up, we've not got a chance of winning anything so let's look for other positives".

                  Sometimes he should just say nothing.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by 112 View Post
                    I agree

                    The constant Rafa attacks by the press is pissing me off big time. Wenger over the last 4 Years of achieving nothing has not got as much stick, or questioned even when they had a very bad year when spurs nearly finished above them. They play pretty football so its ok attitude.

                    From the so-called impartial BBC Shiite 5 Live crap fest to the mediocre Talksport, add to that the **** faces at Sky, there all looking for him to go. You’d think Rafa has slept with all there wives and daughters, sisters and mothers to have all these daggers constantly thrown at him.
                    Benitez doesn't help himself with selections and subs.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Joe King View Post
                      Benitez doesn't help himself with selections and subs.

                      With Subs I totally agree, its like an a 'enigma', however with selections, we don't see the day-to-day on goings or what's happening in the training sessions, how intelligent the players are to learning the tactics and how to adept they are to dealing with differing oppositions, so its a tough one to call.

                      Based on the players we have we would all play the 4-1-3-1 formation but would all of us agree with the players selected.

                      I've been thinking that in reality, when people have always called Wenger for not having a plan B when the going gets tough in the game, do we have one? My answer is 'no', and contributes to our downfall.

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                        #12
                        I'm not one of those RCDNW people, but I firmly believe that Rafa is the only person currently associated with the club who genuinely has the club's interests at heart. He's LFC through and through and I'm sure he suffers defeats just like we do.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by TheElephantMan View Post
                          but I firmly believe that Rafa is the only person currently associated with the club who genuinely has the club's interests at heart.
                          King Kenny?

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                            #14
                            “It’s not just about one year. It is about what we can achieve in the future.
                            This line stuck out for me, the recent Tomkins article immediately sprung to mind...
                            Hello mert.

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                              #15
                              daft

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