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    Media Myths: Rafa Benitez and His Transfer History With Liverpool Football Club

    There appears to be a trend growing amongst media outlets, “expert” pundits, and rival supporters who ensure a negative air surrounds Liverpool Football Club and more commonly its manager, Rafa Benitez. It seems he can do no right in the eyes of some people—his own supporters included—and more false claims appear every week that serve only to derail him from his aims. As more and more newspapers churn out sensational headline after headline and television pundits spout opinion as fact; the more people are brainwashed by these stories. Many lazy debaters claim their opinion to be fact or truth whilst they simply recycle misleading newspaper propaganda as their own knowledge or belief. Biased supporters who choose to jump on the slander bandwagon when it involves a rival team are common place, and this only adds to the ever-growing ideology of a story perceived as fact.

    One such myth which seems to have appeared recently has been the same tired line about Rafa Benitez and his transfers since his time at Liverpool.

    You will hear people claiming things like:

    “A larger proportion of Rafa's signings have been expensive and poor.”

    This does of course depend on how a person interprets the words expensive and poor—the latter obviously being down to their personal opinion of a player.

    For example if someone wants to use the barometer of anything over a million pounds to be expensive and any player other than Messi or Ronaldo is considered poor; then anyone will struggle to argue against that logic—me included.

    We can address the “expensive” part of the argument first:

    (Numbers in brackets are players still at the club)

    £20-30+ million: 1 (1)

    Torres

    £10-20 million: 4 (3)

    Mascherano, Keane, Babel, Alonso

    £5-10 million: 14 (9)

    Dossenna, Riera, Agger, Skrtel, Reina, Benayoun, Leiva, Kuyt, Pennant, Crouch, Bellamy, Sissoko, Morientes, Garcia

    £0-5 million: 47 (36)

    Degan, Cavelieri, Ngog, Plessis, Insua, Leto, Itandje, Voronin, Arbeloa, El Zhar, Aurelio, Palletta, Fowler, Kromkamp, Barragan, Nunez, Zenden, Gonzalez, Carson, Pellegrino, Josemi, Martin, Antwi, Hobbs, Miki Roque, Gulacsi, Padelli, Anderson, Poloskei, Crowther, Hansen, Saric, Ayala, Weijl, Blanco, Flora, Mendy, Ajdarevic, Simon, Bouzanis, Nemeth, Pacheco, Palsson, Brouwer, Durán, Huth, Domínguez.

    It is easy to see that the majority of Rafa’s signings have been below the £10 million mark and nothing like the fabrication that he has bought mostly “expensive” signings. Especially when you consider that 49 of his 66 signings are still at the club and the selling on fee cannot yet be determined.



    Here are some more comments and claims made about Rafael Benitez:

    “He has bought 53 players for £190 million and sold 56 for £108 million, clearly a loss of £82 million proves he doesn’t have a clue in the transfer market.”

    I think the easiest way to explain this would be to just show you a full rundown of Rafael Benitez’ signings since he joined Liverpool in June 2004:

    Players bought in by Benitez: 66

    Players still at the club: 49

    First Team: 18

    Alonso, Reina, Agger, Aurélio, Kuyt, Arbeloa, Mascherano, Lucas, Torres, Itandje, Benayoun, Babel, Skrtel, Degen, Dossena, Cavalieri, Ngog, Riera.

    Reserve Team: 22

    El Zhar, Insúa, Palsson, Brouwer, Durán, Huth, Domínguez, Pacheco, Nemeth, Plessis, Hansen, Saric, Ayala, Weijl, Blanco, Flora, Mendy, Ajdarevic, Simon, Bouzanis, Crowther, Poloskei

    Out on Loan: 9

    Andriy Voronin, Jermaine Pennant, Sebastian Leto, David Martin, Godwin Antwi, Jack Hobbs, Miki Roque, Peter Gulacsi, Paul Anderson

    A figure of 49 players bought by Rafa are still playing for the club with the majority (22) bought as youth players for the reserve team—with the idea for future revenue if they perform to their potential. It will also save the club a great deal of money if they turn out to be superstars worth a large transfer fee.

    From that 49 figure, there are 18 still playing for the first team and contributing on a very large scale with the majority of them being priced by many as a greater figure than when the players were initially bought by Rafa.

    From the nine players out on loan, only two are established players with the other seven being young reserve players gaining experience at other clubs—with the hope of either returning to Liverpool’s first team or making a profit to invest in future transfers.



    Players Sold On by Benitez: 56

    Players Bought by Other Managers and Sold on by Benitez: 39

    Players Bought and Sold on by Rafa Benitez: 17



    For me, this is the key point from which poorly informed debaters’ opinions collapse. Most propaganda articles or rival supporters will wildly claim that Rafa has sold "56" players and made little money in return.

    They claim the “majority” of the "56" players the Liverpool manager has sold on have been at a loss and “proves” his failings in the transfer market. This is such a misleading statement to make that I really don’t know how people can still get away with it.

    For starters, Benitez has sold 39 players bought by other Liverpool managers.

    Benitez cannot be held accountable for selling a player at a loss when Benitez was not the one who identified the player as a target in the first place or sanctioned the over-inflated transfer fee.

    You can only really judge him on the players he has bought and sold since he has been at the club and this brings the true figure down to just 17 players.



    Profit: 7

    Carson +2.25, Barragan +0.43, Sissoko +2.6, Crouch +4.0, Gonzalez +2.0, Bellamy +1.5, Nunez +0.5

    Loss: 6

    Garcia -2.0, Morientes -3.3, Palletta -0.8, Josemi (swapped for) Kromkamp -0.25, Idrizaj -0.19, Keane -3.0 (could be even less depending on contract triggers)

    Even: 4

    Pellegrino, Zenden, Fowler, Padelli (all four players were brought in and moved on for a free transfer)



    So the true extent of Rafa’s failings in the transfer market is just six players from 17, coming with a loss of just under £10 million within four and a half years—the most expensive loss being just £3.3 million; nothing like the losses achieved by other established Premier League managers.

    Hopefully that is one media myth that's now been eradicated.

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    Patience goes a long way.....

    #2
    sorry am i missing something or are you claiming either keane or alonso are still at the club?
    Vive la France

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      #3
      Yes but people fail to see that, in their eyes hes just rubbish in the transfer market despite having hundreds of millions of pounds to spend.

      Plainly ridiculous but people see what they want to see. Imagine a martin o neill or curbishley in charge, what chaos would they have caused in that same period.

      Rafas gone because the press have told all the sheep that hes crap.
      RAFA

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        #4
        Where's Johnson & Aqualani?

        By th way Mary, I dont thinnk Rafa is goine- we cannot afford to sack him (which is one good thing to come out of our limited finances).
        3rd place. Worst champions ever.

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          #5
          I hope ypur right but normally when a manager comes under this much pressure the press dont let up until they succeed in getting him sacked or making the poor ****er walk.
          Hopefully Hicks will do the right thing, but probably for the wrong reason, and stick with Rafa. Give him this season, thats all I expect, and if he hasnt sorted it out then fair enough it may be time for a change, but I hate the thought of sacking a good manager quarter way through a season.
          RAFA

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            #6
            Sorry the link does not work....
            Patience goes a long way.....

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              #7
              http://http://bleacherreport.com/art...ll-club/page/2
              Patience goes a long way.....

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                #8
                Originally posted by Robbie-9-Fowler View Post
                sorry am i missing something or are you claiming either keane or alonso are still at the club?
                Alonso was sold at a profit, and Keane, as much as he was a flop, was sold at very little loss so it wasn't much of one.

                Originally posted by PC Plod View Post
                Where's Johnson & Aqualani?
                Aquilani hasn't played a full game yet, and Johnson although he looks a great success it's still too early to give a concrete judgement.

                Either that or the article was written before the summer.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by EwarWoo View Post
                  Alonso was sold at a profit, and Keane, as much as he was a flop, was sold at very little loss so it wasn't much of one.


                  Aquilani hasn't played a full game yet, and Johnson although he looks a great success it's still too early to give a concrete judgement.

                  Either that or the article was written before the summer.
                  According to the link it was written in March 09 WTF?........................lets get some updated threads on here
                  You Can Lead A Horse To Water , But A Pencil Must Be Lead!

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                    #10
                    sorry.....
                    Patience goes a long way.....

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Darth Marty View Post
                      I hope ypur right but normally when a manager comes under this much pressure the press dont let up until they succeed in getting him sacked or making the poor ****er walk.
                      Hopefully Hicks will do the right thing, but probably for the wrong reason, and stick with Rafa. Give him this season, thats all I expect, and if he hasnt sorted it out then fair enough it may be time for a change, but I hate the thought of sacking a good manager quarter way through a season.
                      Common sense.

                      Forwards.......

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                        #12
                        Only mad rambling men will want Rafa to leave midseason. However, Rafa should understand this time if the owners are putting out feelers now for a new manager in the summer should things not pan out well for us by then.
                        One tit for another.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by BigChief View Post
                          Only mad rambling men will want Rafa to leave midseason. However, Rafa should understand this time if the owners are putting out feelers now for a new manager in the summer should things not pan out well for us by then.
                          the people who want rafa to leave mid season are not mad men. far from it. they realise the potential for disater if he stays. right now our form will not be good enough to obtain us the top 4 finish we need. if come xmas time we are anywhere but top 4 or within touching distance of the top 2 ( by which i mean we are 9 points behind already so anything upwards of 20-23 points of top ) then i'd suggest we get someone in. if we dont have cl to play for next year no top manager would touch us. if we still have a chance of gaining top 4 then we are an attractive option for the top dogs.
                          People who think there's no good way to die have obviously never heard the phrase 'Drug-fuelled-sex-heart-attack'.

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                            #14
                            Rev, I see your point but with the players we have coming back Rafa can get us that top 4 spot with his eyes and office door shut. Its a no-brainer task, sorry Man City and Arsenal are not better than us at finishing a season off and thats a FACT. I'd rather a clean break at an appropriate time than an unprofessional umbilical disconnection. We're not Portsmouth ffs.
                            One tit for another.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by the rev leeroy brown View Post
                              the people who want rafa to leave mid season are not mad men. far from it. they realise the potential for disater if he stays. right now our form will not be good enough to obtain us the top 4 finish we need. if come xmas time we are anywhere but top 4 or within touching distance of the top 2 ( by which i mean we are 9 points behind already so anything upwards of 20-23 points of top ) then i'd suggest we get someone in. if we dont have cl to play for next year no top manager would touch us. if we still have a chance of gaining top 4 then we are an attractive option for the top dogs.
                              I think people are forgetting the amount of players we are due back from injury.

                              We'll have to many midfielders for Xmas.

                              Gerrard, Aquilani, Riera, Lucas, Masch, Kuyt, Babel, Spearing, Plessis.

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