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https://www.est1892.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?p=4002484#post4002484
Thanjk you.
Paul.S
I'm not too gutted, why? because i fully expected us to lose.
Liverpool FC... a club in crisis.
"Let me say for the record, I am not a gangster and never have been. Im not the thief who grabs your purse. Im not the guy who jacks your car. Im not down with the people who steal and hurt others. Im just a brother who fight back."
Tupac
I think you're wrong sorry. That same team pushed Man Utd all the way last season, and at the same time were very very competitive in the CL. It's a bit stupid to say that he's bought 'average' players when the same ones are playing for us this season.
Just don't let your frustrations makes you look stupid mate.
the difference between average players and top notch players is that top notch players play well on a consistent basis, game after game, season after season.
Everybody has times when they wont play as well, but kuyt, babel, dossena are examples of players that at times have played well but most of the time have played pretty poorly.
Kuyt's stats last season were 15 - 9 and he had by far and away his best season. This season he has reverted to the kuyt we all know. That's the difference I was trying to make a point of.
Players like benayoun, kuyt, skrtel and arbeloa had exceptional seasons and that combined with the quality of gerrard, masher, alonso, torres, carragher and reina helped us push united all the way.
The fact that skrtel isnt in the team anymore, benayoun has been pretty disappointing this season and that kuyt probably shouldnt be in the team should speak volumes. Our average players played well for a given period.
This season they've gone missing. Next time, if you dont understand the point just ask - otherwise you run the risk of making yourself look like a tit.
we need to get out of this bad patch and we need to do it fast. Unfortunately, I dont think rafa's 'play to my instructions' school of management is what our players need right now. We need someome to motivate the players to go out there and put in 100% effort to win games by any means possible.
Rafa doesnt have the closeness to the players so ask yourself why would the players try harder to save the managers job. Why would they play for him ? They're in a lull, they need lifting and someone at some stage is going to have to perform a minor miracle. Is rafa that man ?
This is why apart from winning matches, nothing else will lift their confidence.
Nice post mate .. there some real monobrows kicking about refreshing to see another pragmatic poster. That was **** but what can we do, fight on but now I can support Arse, and Chelsea for the title ... I need a shower
Cheers Nicey. Hmmm disagree with you on supporting Chavski (as they buy their titles IMO) I will be fimly behind Arsenal winning the EPL and ECL - As I think they play the best footie... plus Wenger was in the same position as Rafa is now.. loads of Gooners were calling for Wengers head... now though, they love him again.
Sometimes FANS!!!!! Can be so ****ing fickle... If you won all the time it would get boring... one things for sure.. our season certainly is interesting...
So what is Souness, Klinsman, Cannock Dogger, Ian Wright and whoever ****ing else wants to slag us off!! Let them.
IMO Rafa is not a ****e manager... just were on a big dip, Players aren't performing to their best abilities.. and they'll sort it... I bet you they do.
The buck will obviously come down to him. He's the boss.
But when Arsenal scored today, the players should have responded. Rafa isn't kicking a ball then no? He's put Aquilani on, which some have been saying will be 'our saviour'. Then he's put on N'Gog and left Torres out on the pitch when he's clearly not sharp enough. This all in the idea 'not to piss off' the supporters, who are so knowledgeable ... He would have been booed if he had done so.
you are losing the plot
"If Gerrard continues to play up front, leaving this lack of creativity and intelligence in Midfield, the season WILL be over by Xmas."
I still don't think we'll finish in the top 4 this season."
Cheers Nicey. Hmmm disagree with you on supporting Chavski (as they buy their titles IMO) I will be fimly behind Arsenal winning the EPL and ECL - As I think they play the best footie... plus Wenger was in the same position as Rafa is now.. loads of Gooners were calling for Wengers head... now though, they love him again.
Sometimes FANS!!!!! Can be so ****ing fickle... If you won all the time it would get boring... one things for sure.. our season certainly is interesting...
So what is Souness, Klinsman, Cannock Dogger, Ian Wright and whoever ****ing else wants to slag us off!! Let them.
IMO Rafa is not a ****e manager... just were on a big dip, Players aren't performing to their best abilities.. and they'll sort it... I bet you they do.
R4E
99% of teams buy the title, we all buy our position, we've bought a top 4 place so why do we whine about chelsea?
"If Gerrard continues to play up front, leaving this lack of creativity and intelligence in Midfield, the season WILL be over by Xmas."
I still don't think we'll finish in the top 4 this season."
the difference between average players and top notch players is that top notch players play well on a consistent basis, game after game, season after season.
Everybody has times when they wont play as well, but kuyt, babel, dossena are examples of players that at times have played well but most of the time have played pretty poorly.
Kuyt's stats last season were 15 - 9 and he had by far and away his best season. This season he has reverted to the kuyt we all know. That's the difference I was trying to make a point of.
Players like benayoun, kuyt, skrtel and arbeloa had exceptional seasons and that combined with the quality of gerrard, masher, alonso, torres, carragher and reina helped us push united all the way.
The fact that skrtel isnt in the team anymore, benayoun has been pretty disappointing this season and that kuyt probably shouldnt be in the team should speak volumes. Our average players played well for a given period.
This season they've gone missing. Next time, if you dont understand the point just ask - otherwise you run the risk of making yourself look like a tit.
we need to get out of this bad patch and we need to do it fast. Unfortunately, I dont think rafa's 'play to my instructions' school of management is what our players need right now. We need someome to motivate the players to go out there and put in 100% effort to win games by any means possible.
Rafa doesnt have the closeness to the players so ask yourself why would the players try harder to save the managers job. Why would they play for him ? They're in a lull, they need lifting and someone at some stage is going to have to perform a minor miracle. Is rafa that man ?
This is why apart from winning matches, nothing else will lift their confidence.
Same last time 4 shots 4 ****ing goals .. I am depleted right now .. off to bed .. Laters .. it wont hurt as much with time, theres always poker, cage fighting, my 27' iMac and Fifa
gutted those shower of cunts should have a word with themselves
iMac 27" a man with taste... (yes this is off topic) you running 10.6 ? let me know if its any good... running my new MBP and **** its fast... makes me laugh thats the fastest (and best) computer to run Windows 7 is a Mac!
Anyways... I'm off to get wasted on a bottle of Baileys... heres to maybe a ****ing win on Wednesday! and hope all the other teams lose... well the ones above us!
oh well, I'll have to live without your explanation, I was so looking forward to it.
Rafa's picking the team now based on the supporters opinions....now the guy who believes Rafa can do no wrong is making the excuse that its the fans fault! Priceless.
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